FrozenInTime Posted June 8, 2021 Share #41 Posted June 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: The summicron is almost as small as the elmarit, is sharper with a mix of super gentle rendition. It is a true master lens. Summaron is quite simply the King of mood. Especially with the deep hood of the current Elmarit the difference looks minuscule. Other than the looks of the black Summaron, it never appealed to me due to it's slow speed; but I did already have the MS 28/2 and 35/1.4 Apoqualia lenses for mood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted June 8, 2021 Share #42 Posted June 8, 2021 I shoot indoor too much to be content with f/5.6 so to me it can only be Elmarit or Elmarit . I mean 28/2.8 asph v1 or 28/2.8 asph v2. I prefer v1 for its smaller size but i like also the even smaller Rokkor 28/2.8 for Minolta CLE. Not sure i could resist a black anodized 28/5.6 if Leica decided to sell one though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 8, 2021 Share #43 Posted June 8, 2021 Lct, really ? images from here Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321627-choosing-a-compact-28mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4216018'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 8, 2021 Share #44 Posted June 8, 2021 41 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: There are a lot of misconceptions about the summicron vs elmarit asph. The elmarit asph has had a reputation of being sharper, which is not true. If anything, the elmarit is softer than the summicron at all stops, has more vignette and is more crude all over. The summicron is almost as small as the elmarit, is sharper with a mix of super gentle rendition. It is a true master lens. Summaron is quite simply the King of mood. yes really small King of Mood Sometimes too small when I don't take enough care Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 8, 2021 Share #45 Posted June 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Lct, really ? images from here Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's black paint not black anodized AFAIK or am i mistaken? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 8, 2021 Share #46 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Sorry, black paint Summaron-M 28mm indeed my bad I see this in french : [ La peinture spéciale utilisée ici est particulièrement résistante à l'usure et donne à l’objectif une apparence presque identique à celle des finitions chromées noires classiques, ... ] ...almost black anodized appearence ! With the lens metallic finish, maybe needing another lighter alunimium anodized black finish. Edited June 8, 2021 by a.noctilux Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted June 8, 2021 Share #47 Posted June 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) if 32mm is ok for you, there's also the Lomography Minitar which is super cheap and has plenty of character https://www.35mmc.com/10/04/2018/5-frames-lomography-minitar-art-lens-barnaby-nutt/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 8, 2021 Share #48 Posted June 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: ..almost black anodized appearence ! My feeling was somewhat different when i was "offered" one by my dealer. The paint looked matte and did not match well with black anodized bodies. The thing was made for collectors i suspect... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted June 8, 2021 Share #49 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, pedaes said: I somehow knew I was wasting my time!😉 Sorry, truth hurts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 8, 2021 Share #50 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, pedaes said: Yes the number was limited. Ironically, didn't think it looked as good in black so didn't bother with it! Same here. I think it looked ugly as hell... so probably fine on an M10 then (.....ok everyone that was a joke) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedro Posted June 8, 2021 Share #51 Posted June 8, 2021 I have had all of current 28s at some point. the Lux for me is the best as it has an amazing look and is modern which I prefer then it depends what else you need and what for: - elmarit for size and contrast look - summaron for character (size is not necessarily a pro in this case for me as I often end up putting my fingers in front) - summicron is end to end sharp with a beautiful gentler rendering Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 8, 2021 Share #52 Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, pedaes said: It is certainly OK at delivering a unique rendering which you either get or you don't! M9 / 28mm Summaron Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wow!!!! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted June 8, 2021 Share #53 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said: Sorry, truth hurts. Not at all. Horses for courses as the English say. I am not into poorly focused snaps of guys on bikes or empty garages and half a car- but you will tell me you are not either. Edited June 8, 2021 by pedaes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2021 Share #54 Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, ianman said: Wow!!!! Yeah! That's what I thought too! Philip. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted June 8, 2021 Share #55 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, pedaes said: Not at all. Horses for courses as the English say. I am not into poorly focused snaps of guys on bikes - but you will tell me you are not either. I'm not into over saturated landscapes for sure. . No value to me. I'm into people. In my interview to Inspired Eye I have mentioned bicyclists. I'm fixie rider by myself. I do like bicycles. Precovid in Chicago with M-E 220. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sorry, you are wasting your very valuable time with me. I feel so bad for you. Sorry. Edited June 8, 2021 by Ko.Fe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sorry, you are wasting your very valuable time with me. I feel so bad for you. Sorry. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321627-choosing-a-compact-28mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4216126'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2021 Share #56 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Ko.Fe. said: Sorry, truth hurts. Your truth is simply yet another opinion and nothing else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share #57 Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: There are a lot of misconceptions about the summicron vs elmarit asph. The elmarit asph has had a reputation of being sharper, which is not true. If anything, the elmarit is softer than the summicron at all stops, has more vignette and is more crude all over. The summicron is almost as small as the elmarit, is sharper with a mix of super gentle rendition. It is a true master lens. Summaron is quite simply the King of mood. Wow, capuccino! You're actually knowledgable and capable or being helpful ? I had no idea. What a pleasant surprise. Thanks mate. Any experience with the Summilux to throw it and complete this useful comparison ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share #58 Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, lct said: I shoot indoor too much to be content with f/5.6 so to me it can only be Elmarit or Elmarit . I mean 28/2.8 asph v1 or 28/2.8 asph v2. I prefer v1 for its smaller size but i like also the even smaller Rokkor 28/2.8 for Minolta CLE. Not sure i could resist a black anodized 28/5.6 if Leica decided to sell one though. Is there actually any size difference between V1 and V2 without the hoods? Or is it just a hood difference ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share #59 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Fedro said: I have had all of current 28s at some point. Which ones have you kept and why ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share #60 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ianman said: Wow!!!! +1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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