AceVentura1986 Posted May 14, 2021 Share #1 Posted May 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) So, I’ve sent my newly acquired M3 to DAG for a CLA. Should I have the take-up spool changed, if possible? To do so would make this non-original, but then again, I bought it as a shooter not a shelf-queen. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Geschlecht Posted May 14, 2021 Share #2 Posted May 14, 2021 Hello Ace, What were you thinking of having it changed to? A quick load just needs to change the Standard Spool for the Quick Load Spool & attach the Positioning Device with a flat head screw driver. A Tulip requires more work on the part of someone else. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceVentura1986 Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello Ace, What were you thinking of having it changed to? A quick load just needs to change the Standard Spool for the Quick Load Spool & attach the Positioning Device with a flat head screw driver. A Tulip requires more work on the part of someone else. Best Regards, Michael Actually, I just got the quote to change it and decided to pass. It’s almost as much as the CLA alone and would nearly double my cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 14, 2021 Share #4 Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Hello Ace, Did you ever think of just getting a "Quick Load" & the Alignment Piece? The Alignment Piece is not necessary, altho it is nice to have, since a person can simply put the film into the "Snail" until the sprocket holes in the film match the teeth in the sprocket wheel. Not quite as fast as a "Tulip" but not that far behind. Best Regards, Michael Edited May 14, 2021 by Michael Geschlecht 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNC Posted May 14, 2021 Share #5 Posted May 14, 2021 I enjoy loading a new roll into my M3. I'm super happy when I see the rewind knob move! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew01 Posted May 14, 2021 Share #6 Posted May 14, 2021 9 hours ago, DaveNC said: I enjoy loading a new roll into my M3. I'm super happy when I see the rewind knob move! Me too, its part if the vintage M3 experience:) 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidshirts Posted May 15, 2021 Share #7 Posted May 15, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 hours ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello Ace, Did you ever think of just getting a "Quick Load" & the Alignment Piece? The Alignment Piece is not necessary, altho it is nice to have, since a person can simply put the film into the "Snail" until the sprocket holes in the film match the teeth in the sprocket wheel. Not quite as fast as a "Tulip" but not that far behind. Best Regards, Michael Unfortunately, quick load kits cost as much as a CLA these days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted May 15, 2021 Share #8 Posted May 15, 2021 Embrace the “slow”, “fiddly”, “archaic” loading of your M3. It’s part of the experience. Also, it’s not really that slow or fiddly once you load it a few times, and it is very secure. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 15, 2021 Share #9 Posted May 15, 2021 9 hours ago, plaidshirts said: Unfortunately, quick load kits cost as much as a CLA these days. Hello Plaidshirts, That is unfortunate. When they were new in the 1970's they didn't cost that much more than a replacement spool. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted May 15, 2021 Share #10 Posted May 15, 2021 Buy an extra take up spool. Way faster to load than the Quick load kits and more reliable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 15, 2021 Share #11 Posted May 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, madNbad said: Buy an extra take up spool. Way faster to load than the Quick load kits and more reliable. Hello MadNbad, Not necessarily. Both work equally well. They are just different. A second roll of film already loaded on a Separate Original Spool takes time to do. And you have to remember to keep it somewhere clean until you need it. With a Quick Load: If you remember to align the snail correctly, wrap the film to 02:00 & then push the film in until the sprocket holes on the film align with the sprockets on the wheel (Faster & easier to do than it is to write about.): Things should be pretty much the same. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted May 15, 2021 Share #12 Posted May 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello MadNbad, Not necessarily. Both work equally well. They are just different. A second roll of film already loaded on a Separate Original Spool takes time to do. And you have to remember to keep it somewhere clean until you need it. With a Quick Load: If you remember to align the snail correctly, wrap the film to 02:00 & then push the film in until the sprocket holes on the film align with the sprockets on the wheel (Faster & easier to do than it is to write about.): Things should be pretty much the same. Best Regards, Michael I had a Quick Load in a M2, no matter how careful I was in loading the camera, the film either slipped off or bunched up around the spool. Eventually, I gave it away. Some users love them and never have a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 15, 2021 Share #13 Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Hello MadNbad. Did you: Align the snail with your right thumb so that the opening is between 09:00 & 12:00? Wrap the film around the snail to 02:00? Push the film in until the sprocket holes in the film are over the sprockets on the wheel? Snug the film? Then advance the film a small amount to make sure the film is advancing correctly? Then put on the baseplate & advance the film while watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter & advance a second time watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter a second time? Done. Best Regards, Michael Edited May 15, 2021 by Michael Geschlecht Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted May 15, 2021 Share #14 Posted May 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello MadNbad. Did you: Align the snail with your right thumb so that the opening is between 09:00 & 12:00? Wrap the film around the snail to 02:00? Push the film in until the sprocket holes in the film are over the sprockets on the wheel? Snug the film? Then advance the film a small amount to make sure the film is advancing correctly? Then put on the baseplate & advance the film while watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter & advance a second time watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter a second time? Done. Best Regards, Michael Followed all of the steps, watched a couple of videos, even had a few successful loads but overall found it to be finicky and frustrating. Sold the M2 bought a a M4 and the loading is easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted May 17, 2021 Share #15 Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 11:27 AM, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello MadNbad. Did you: Align the snail with your right thumb so that the opening is between 09:00 & 12:00? Wrap the film around the snail to 02:00? Push the film in until the sprocket holes in the film are over the sprockets on the wheel? Snug the film? Then advance the film a small amount to make sure the film is advancing correctly? Then put on the baseplate & advance the film while watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter & advance a second time watching the rewind turn? Release the shutter a second time? Done. Best Regards, Michael That doesn’t sound very “quick”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 17, 2021 Share #16 Posted May 17, 2021 Hello Oldwino, Actually, not much more than a "Blink of the Eye" when you actually do it. A lot of the World is like this: Seems like a big deal until you do it. After that it is simple. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommonego@gmail.com Posted May 29, 2021 Share #17 Posted May 29, 2021 I had a quick load spool on my 1957 M3 when I got it. Couldn't wait to get it off, bought a standard spool on the bay and have never looked back. I am so used to the old spool, it was muscle memory. I didn't have anyone to explain the quick load that had it work dependably. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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