ynp Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3281 Posted December 10, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Tailwagger said: I'm supposing, given there wasn't room for mechanical IBIS but a strong desire expressed by owners, that Leica, geniuses that they are, has figured out a way to utilize the gyro and computational photography to do some form of IS in software. I'm imagining that they've might have found a way to sacrifice pixels, a sort of inverted multi-shot mode mode it you will. All the work done around perspective control might have been a run up to this and could explain why that feature showed up on the M rather than the SL. It’s an interesting idea. An old style rangefinder camera and optional computational photography in one package! If the processor and memory are fast enough, it’s quite possible. Maybe in Leica M13? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SrMi Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3282 Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, lct said: Or optical "stabilization" due to downsampling mode... RF accuracy is easier to achieve at 15MP than 60MP... Just a (cynical) guess . It is the same effect as when downsampling in the post, except that you lost the original information. Lower resolution helps with RF accuracy or body shake only when pixel peeping. When looking at the outputs of the same dimension (web or print), the lower resolution does not help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3283 Posted December 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, SrMi said: It is the same effect as when downsampling in the post, except that you lost the original information. Lower resolution helps with RF accuracy or body shake only when pixel peeping. When looking at the outputs of the same dimension (web or print), the lower resolution does not help. Or downsampling for the M11 and IBIS for the M12? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3284 Posted December 10, 2021 It will be a monochrome sensor with Adobe AI color. Fuji film simulations included. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikep996 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3285 Posted December 10, 2021 In Brazil they have all the M11 specs and expected price! https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m11-digital-camera-84 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3286 Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mikep996 said: In Brazil they have all the M11 specs and expected price! https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m11-digital-camera-84 Full IBIS? 8k video? We shall see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3287 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: Full IBIS? 8k video? We shall see. Also reports autofocus 😂 Edited December 10, 2021 by dkmoore 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3288 Posted December 10, 2021 yeah that's an SL2 spec 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3289 Posted December 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, dkmoore said: Also reports autofocus 😂 I missed that. Exciting. It must include a built-in Techart adapter. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3290 Posted December 10, 2021 Don't forget, in the beginning ... " ...features and Price on this page are unofficial, official price, and specs will be update on official announcement. " Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3291 Posted December 10, 2021 vor 2 Minuten schrieb LocalHero1953: I missed that. Exciting. It must include a built-in Techart adapter. This would also explain the increase of the weight to whopping 840g! I think the M10 is about 660g… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3292 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) A 1.2inch top LCD display, AF, 8k video and ibis🤣. Everything I wanted in an M Edited December 10, 2021 by cboy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleElmar135mm Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3293 Posted December 10, 2021 vor 23 Minuten schrieb cboy: A 1.2inch top LCD display, AF, 8k video and ibis🤣. Everything I wanted in an M Nice that you get all what you want from an M - but you have got the SL3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3294 Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said: Full IBIS? 8k video? We shall see. this one seems quite plausible.. https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-cl2-mirrorless-camera-241 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuempel86 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3295 Posted December 10, 2021 Have we speculated on the price yet? The SL2-S has become significantly cheaper due to the use of a commercially more accessible sensor. At least that is my explanation. If a Sony sensor is used again, then one could expect something similar. Or at least not a big increase. Unless, however, all the other innovations "eat up" the price advantage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3296 Posted December 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, frame-it said: this one seems quite plausible.. https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-cl2-mirrorless-camera-241 It would be more credible.......if the page for the M11 wasn't so suspect! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scroy Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3297 Posted December 10, 2021 I like the M12 and Q4 projections. 🤪 https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m12-digital-camera-85 https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-q4-mirrorless-digital-camera-239 With an odd AMD chip as well on the Q4 page. 🤣 Looking forward to more credible rumors. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleElmar135mm Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3298 Posted December 10, 2021 vor 6 Minuten schrieb scroy: I like the M12 and Q4 projections. 🤪 https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m12-digital-camera-85 https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-q4-mirrorless-digital-camera-239 With an odd AMD chip as well on the Q4 page. 🤣 Looking forward to more credible rumors. but the best is the new 35mm M AF https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m-35mm-f2.8-lens-191 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3299 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mikep996 said: In Brazil they have all the M11 specs and expected price! https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m11-digital-camera-84 An expected price of $9650 USD - I was expecting it to be a bit over $10,000 USD. The features listed are: Quote 5,760,000 dot viewfinder, 60MP Full-frame CMOS sensor, splash-water protected in compliance with IEC standard 60529, 5 axis Body Image Stabilization. The camera stabilizes up to 5.5 stops, Interval Timer Shooting, Built-In Eye Sensor, Self-Timer, Full HD Video, Fully automatic, sport, portrait, landscape, night portrait, snow/beach, fireworks, candlelight, sunset, digiscoping, miniature effect, panorama, time-lapse, Microphone, Wireless Connectivity & Image Stabilization. Given that the price of the M11 is expected to be just $655 USD higher than the M10R, it seems to me that it is well worth its price tag. I'm not sure what this is about, but the link claims the M11 has autofocus: Quote Automatic (Autofocus in modes iAF/AFs/AFc/Touch AF) or manual. With manual setting: Auto Magnification and Focus Peaking optionally available as focus aids Last of all, if you look at the right corner of what we can see of the bottom plate, it appears to be the same as the bottom plate on the M10 cameras. Or maybe all the above is nothing more than speculation and/or fantasy. Edited December 10, 2021 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 10, 2021 Share #3300 Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, TeleElmar135mm said: but the best is the new 35mm M AF https://camkiter.com/br/camera/leica-m-35mm-f2.8-lens-191 "Available for LEICA M-mount" thankfully Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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