elmars Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5721 Posted January 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 2 Stunden schrieb derleicaman: Dennis, you will definitely notice the weight difference between the black M11, and the M10. I certainly could feel the difference, and everyone I handed the camera noticed it as well. So it is. You can put it another way: The Noctilux looses 130 g of its weight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Brown Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share #5722 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) "I found that I can't be honest and have a relationship with camera companies.... the M11 is the first M since the M8 that I have zero interest in acquiring... It's almost like we're getting Alien technology from somewhere (points left and up with open palm)..." -- Steve H. in his M11 video here. Edited January 13, 2022 by Al Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuempel86 Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5723 Posted January 13, 2022 https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M11-digital-rangefinder-camera.html 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5724 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tuempel86 said: https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M11-digital-rangefinder-camera.html Good point about rolling shutter which I feel might be the crux of the m11. I understand the SL rolling shutter was 22ms. The SL2 16ms, with IBIS. The FpL (also 60mp no IBIS) @ 21.7ms. The Fp @ 20.8, which I have I also experienced rolling shutter at times. So if I'm hoping the M11 would need to be sub 20ms at least to not disappoint Leica users. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 13, 2022 by cboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319914-leica-m11-your-next-camera-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4353063'>More sharing options...
Tuempel86 Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5725 Posted January 13, 2022 I just read the first part of his review. Those who have followed the discussion here will hardly draw any new information from it. Some "advertising" and "recycling" of old texts is also included. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5726 Posted January 13, 2022 Yes, it is very philosophical. And half a day early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5727 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 11 Stunden schrieb hdmesa: Some good ways to think about the M11 sensor: A crop version of the GFX 100/100S sensor (as is the A7R4) An A7R4 sensor with a 3rd party thin cover glass modification done to it + having the microlenses optimized for M glass, which no 3rd party offers SL2-S ISO 12500 and ISO 25000 comparisons with the M11 for color, noise and pushed shadows noise would be interesting. Pixel count would need to match. Edited January 13, 2022 by Chaemono Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5728 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) waiting for a EVF solution ... same as many Edited January 13, 2022 by cirke Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevejack Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5729 Posted January 13, 2022 Thorsten doesn't seem to be saying many positive things about the new visoflex... basically it's fine, as the previous one was. He doesn't really offer it any praises in comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5730 Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stevejack said: Thorsten doesn't seem to be saying many positive things about the new visoflex... basically it's fine, as the previous one was. He doesn't really offer it any praises in comparison. Where are you reading what he’s saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevejack Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5731 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) From this section onwards there is a lengthy writeup (about EVFs in general, mostly, but some words about the new one as well). Edit: Sorry, if you meant the link it was posted a few posts back in this thread (here) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 13, 2022 by Stevejack 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319914-leica-m11-your-next-camera-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4353082'>More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5732 Posted January 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said: Where are you reading what he’s saying? https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M11-digital-rangefinder-camera.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5733 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) I sincerely hope that Leica will postpone the announcement of the M11 for a few weeks. Otherwise we might miss the 6000 posts mark. And will the experience with the M11 still be the same despite the open shutter? It just feels better than worrying about serious things 😀 Edited January 13, 2022 by anickpick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5734 Posted January 13, 2022 it's becoming more and more clear to me that after the resale of my M9 and 240 I will only return to the M if there is an EVF solution or never 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5735 Posted January 13, 2022 I’m pondering if I should sell my M9P or keep it for now in case I don’t like the M11. Somehow, I always go back to the M9P and they’re getting harder to find (and prices keep going up). So yeah for now I might hold on to it and get an M11 to use it for a few months before making a decision. Anyway excited for the announcement, but it does seem we won’t reach 6k by then…lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share #5736 Posted January 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said: I’m pondering if I should sell my M9P or keep it for now in case I don’t like the M11. Somehow, I always go back to the M9P and they’re getting harder to find (and prices keep going up). So yeah for now I might hold on to it and get an M11 to use it for a few months before making a decision. Anyway excited for the announcement, but it does seem we won’t reach 6k by then…lol Always keep one M body regardless of what. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5737 Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Al Brown said: Always keep one M body regardless of what. i still have the MP which is my main camera actually Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5738 Posted January 13, 2022 8 hours ago, MikeMyers said: So, what is a "Leicaman"? Here's one explanation: What is a Leica-man ? I read this ages ago, and it seemed to me back then that there was more than a little truth buried away in this///// My view on KR remains the same as it always was. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oka Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5739 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) I'm having a good day, 1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said: Anyway excited for the announcement, but it does seem we won’t reach 6k by then…lol I'm having a good day, enjoying vanilla ice with home made chocolate sauce. M11 is going to be release within hours and my dealer just confirmed that I should get my two M11's soon 😊 119 posts to go! Edited January 13, 2022 by oka 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted January 13, 2022 Share #5740 Posted January 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Always keep one M body regardless of what. Good policy. 1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said: I’m pondering if I should sell my M9P or keep it for now in case I don’t like the M11. M11 will devalue M10 perhaps, but I don't imagine it devaluing the M9-P which has its own cult following relatively detached from the CMOS cameras that followed. Would an M11 Monochrom devalue my M10 Monochrom? I'm fairly sure it would. But the M9-P is its own thing now. So, why not wait until you can test an M11 and see what you think of it first? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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