Al Brown Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share #3041 Posted December 1, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) So this is new: the image of M11 finally appearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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strohscw Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3042 Posted December 1, 2021 "Leica M11 - your next camera?" As a user of the M10M, I thought about this for a long time and came to the conclusion that the M10-R is the optimal camera for me. The same battery and the identical accessories. And my only criticism of the M10 series, the weak EVF, for the use with my R-lenses, should get an update with the M11 and be backward compatible with the M10 series. Therefore, no long wait but immediately a M10-R as an ideal complement to my M10-M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3043 Posted December 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, strohscw said: "Leica M11 - your next camera?" As a user of the M10M, I thought about this for a long time and came to the conclusion that the M10-R is the optimal camera for me. The same battery and the identical accessories. And my only criticism of the M10 series, the weak EVF, for the use with my R-lenses, should get an update with the M11 and be backward compatible with the M10 series. Therefore, no long wait but immediately a M10-R as an ideal complement to my M10-M. What tells you that the new EVF will be available before the M11 is ? 😉 hint hint Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strohscw Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3044 Posted December 1, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Steven: What tells you that the new EVF will be available before the M11 is ? 😉 hint hint I'm sure the EVF will come along with the M11, but until then I have the 0020 from the M10-M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3045 Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, strohscw said: I'm sure the EVF will come along with the M11, but until then I have the 0020 from the M10-M. Will be announced along. But don't be sure that you'll have that EVF sooner than an M11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3046 Posted December 1, 2021 Interesting to read Imagepower's observation (post #13) within the link in Al's post above (#3125); "Another cosmetical change is the front line of the top cover. Where the magnification button on the M10 series sat, the line is a bit "higher". On the right side (viewfinder window) nothing has changed. So it is no straight line any more, it is divided where the bayonet sits." Not that it is very likely to happen but this feature will make any future M11D a bit of a stylistic challenge. With the M11 my guess is that the disparity between higher- and lower leatherette can easily be resolved, visually-speaking, at the rear because there is a screen in the middle so the covering will be higher to the right and lower to the left. The lack of a screen on any D version would require another solution to be found. But there will not be a D so 'purely academic'... Philip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3047 Posted December 1, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Except if you look closely the bottom edge of the top plate steps back up to the right of the viewfinder so the sides are the same and the plate edge will be a straight line across the back… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3048 Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, NigelG said: Except if you look closely the bottom edge of the top plate steps back up to the right of the viewfinder... Well spotted, Nigel! Which makes the front-edge shape of the top-plate quite interesting. Does the lower part of the v/f window overhang the body-shell or is the shell profiled to mate with the top-plate? It's hard to see much detail on my screen but I will look forward to having it in the hand 'in the fullness of time'... I do like the effect! Philip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3049 Posted December 1, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319914-leica-m11-your-next-camera-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4324132'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3050 Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the enlargements, Ict. I'm pretty sure Leica have been 'playing around' with the visual ratios concerning 'above the crease-line to below the crease-line' for a long while but this is the first time I've ever seen the v/f window framed below the top-cover / body-cover split. It would still be nice to know whether the 'skin' is cut-down to make way for a flush-fitting v/f window or if there is a cutaway on the top-plate behind the part of the v/f which 'hangs' below the body-covering. Very interesting from a design-detail POV. Thanks again! Philip. Edited December 1, 2021 by pippy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3051 Posted December 1, 2021 It really does look like something has happened to the viewfinder … 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3052 Posted December 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: It really does look like something has happened to the viewfinder … In a purely 'visual' sense it is (AFAIK) the first time ever that the v/f window has dipped below the level of the top-plate / body-skin covering divide. If true then, of course, not massively important in any 'meaningful' way but from a design perspective quite fascinating in itself. Philip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3053 Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, pippy said: In a purely 'visual' sense it is (AFAIK) the first time ever that the v/f window has dipped below the level of the top-plate / body-skin covering divide.. Has weather sealing the top plate controls pushed the whole rangefinder and viewfinder assembly downwards ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3054 Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Has weather sealing the top plate controls pushed the whole rangefinder and viewfinder assembly downwards ? No the top plate has become shallower and the body covering taller. So the top plate line is higher on the rear. Is there a larger/flush or larger+ flush (or tilting) screen on the back that is benefitting from more real-estate? Edited December 1, 2021 by NigelG Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3055 Posted December 1, 2021 they seem to have dropped the knurling on the SS and ISO dials too (vertical lines now) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 1, 2021 Share #3056 Posted December 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Adam Bonn said: they seem to have dropped the knurling on the SS and ISO dials too (vertical lines now) Knurled only on the Black Paint version of the M10-R. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted December 2, 2021 Share #3057 Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, lct said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I'd be surprised if so, but might this be indicative of the first version being (or including) an 11M ala the 10-R/M? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 2, 2021 Share #3058 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Tailwagger said: I'd be surprised if so, but might this be indicative of the first version being (or including) an 11M ala the 10-R/M? I have no idea sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 2, 2021 Share #3059 Posted December 2, 2021 60 MP could be for the crop mode, if any... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 2, 2021 Share #3060 Posted December 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Artin said: new 60MP sensor tethering support substantial step forward from the current M10 models (not sure what exactly this means) this is interesting 60mpx sensor.? ok time to get a new super computer A $1.7k Mac Mini M1 will do just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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