logan2z Posted January 27, 2022 Share #81 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Want to feel better about the Mechanical (im)Perfections with your cameras? Spend some time reading the M11 subforum. You'll be glad you bought a film body 🙂 Edited January 27, 2022 by logan2z 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Brown Posted January 27, 2022 Share #82 Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Yes, and before M11 the venerable M10-R black paint - even though being a limited production - had shutter button issues out of the box. Edited January 27, 2022 by Al Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobjuul Posted January 27, 2022 Share #83 Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, malligator said: My M-A has been perfect for almost two years. I'm about to order its MP companion. I'll report how it goes, but I suspect it'll be just fine. Edited to Add: Okay, this thread prompted me. I just ordered my MP. Now the excruciating wait begins. Good luck. I am sure you will enjoy it. I enjoyed it for the 3 days it worked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malligator Posted January 27, 2022 Share #84 Posted January 27, 2022 10 hours ago, gabrielaszalos said: I'm on my 4th exchange MP. This one seems the best so far. No problems yet. But then again, I've not used it as much as I did the previous ones. Leica Customer Service is stellar! You apparently forgot why you started this thread. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28framelines Posted January 28, 2022 Share #85 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) I’m going to add this because I think it needs to be said: I ordered my MP from Camtec Photo in Montreal. When I called them about the misaligned finder, it was the first time anyone has ever had an issue with a Leica brand new that they had sold, and they are the oldest Leica Camera dealer in Canada. All of my friends who have MPs/M-As have never experienced this issue, and have never looked into seeing if it was a problem (hence why they’ve never posted on a forum). Negative bias is very clear on this forum (I’m not blaming anyone), more so pointing out that we’ll see a lot more that have issues on this forum than those who have not. Unfortunately for a few, some have experienced multiple bad copies. Edited January 28, 2022 by 28framelines 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 1, 2022 Share #86 Posted February 1, 2022 The film counter failed on my MP. Sent it to DAG to repair, and he went off! Told me that if this was Mechanical Perfection, why did Leica replace the original metal parts (up to the M5) with cheap plastic bits in all the Ms after that for the film counter. Apparently he's repaired many.. But absolutely love the camera, and now it works perfectly. The repair was $170-ish and honestly if it fails again 10, 20 years from now, I'll happily pay for the repair because the rest of the camera is so nice. It however is a bummer that Leica used higher quality pieces on the older cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 2, 2022 Share #87 Posted February 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) @Huss Like this one ? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP ...M3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP ...M3 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319869-mechanical-perfection/?do=findComment&comment=4374286'>More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 2, 2022 Share #88 Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, a.noctilux said: @Huss Like this one ? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP ...M3 Yup. And every Leica tech I spoke with was VERY familiar with this flaw. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my MP. This is just disappointing as there was no reason for this. Guarantee any Leica MP/MA/M7/M6/M4-P owner would willingly have paid another $20 for this to be a metal part like in the pre M4-2 Leicas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malligator Posted February 2, 2022 Share #89 Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Huss said: Yup. And every Leica tech I spoke with was VERY familiar with this flaw. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my MP. This is just disappointing as there was no reason for this. Guarantee any Leica MP/MA/M7/M6/M4-P owner would willingly have paid another $20 for this to be a metal part like in the pre M4-2 Leicas. And yet it's not mentioned once (that I can find, to be fair) in the 15+ year old "I love my MP" thread. Edited February 2, 2022 by malligator Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 2, 2022 Share #90 Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, malligator said: And yet it's not mentioned once (that I can find, to be fair) in the 15+ year old "I love my MP" thread. Weird how a thread called "I love my MP" would only have praise... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malligator Posted February 2, 2022 Share #91 Posted February 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Huss said: Weird how a thread called "I love my MP" would only have praise... And yet it doesn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkoush Posted February 3, 2022 Share #92 Posted February 3, 2022 I just saw this thread. I bought a new M7 in 2005: zero problems whatsoever. Sold it in 2007 for a new MP. New MP: no problems whatsoever, very smooth and precise feeling, after about 1000 rolls of film I sent it in to Leica for a CLA and mask viewfinder to 28/90, 35, 50. Came back as new, and smoother as ever. In 2015 I ordered a new a la cart MP (I really wanted that 0.58 viewfinder). Received 8 months later: no problems whatsoever. The best camera I ever had (I really like the 0.58 viewfinder). I have been running between 100-120 rolls of film per year consistently through these since 2005 (and before that it was another beautiful mechanical camera, the Olympus OM-3). 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malligator Posted February 3, 2022 Share #93 Posted February 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, smkoush said: I just saw this thread. I bought a new M7 in 2005: zero problems whatsoever. Sold it in 2007 for a new MP. New MP: no problems whatsoever, very smooth and precise feeling, after about 1000 rolls of film I sent it in to Leica for a CLA and mask viewfinder to 28/90, 35, 50. Came back as new, and smoother as ever. In 2015 I ordered a new a la cart MP (I really wanted that 0.58 viewfinder). Received 8 months later: no problems whatsoever. The best camera I ever had (I really like the 0.58 viewfinder). I have been running between 100-120 rolls of film per year consistently through these since 2005 (and before that it was another beautiful mechanical camera, the Olympus OM-3). I need to work on my "seeing". I could technically afford that much film per year, but it would be wasted because I just don't see enough great photos to fill 10 rolls a month. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkoush Posted February 3, 2022 Share #94 Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, malligator said: I need to work on my "seeing". I could technically afford that much film per year, but it would be wasted because I just don't see enough great photos to fill 10 rolls a month. ha! 10 rolls a month, but far from great...I'd be lucky if I get 1-2 ok (rarely great) photos per roll! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319869-mechanical-perfection/?do=findComment&comment=4375232'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted February 3, 2022 Share #95 Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, malligator said: I need to work on my "seeing". I could technically afford that much film per year, but it would be wasted because I just don't see enough great photos to fill 10 rolls a month. You won't get many good photos if you are shooting little. But film photos are always looks nice 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 3, 2022 Share #96 Posted February 3, 2022 On 4/23/2021 at 8:24 PM, 28framelines said: You can get an MP finder put in an M4? With 28mm framelines? Yes you can - Sherry Krauter did the MP viewfinder installation on my M4-P. I would highly recommend her for this viewfinder upgrade: http://www.sherrykrauter.com/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted February 7, 2022 Share #97 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 9:45 AM, Ko.Fe. said: You won't get many good photos if you are shooting little. But film photos are always looks nice Definitely agreed! Im so addicted just to seeing the grains 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted February 23, 2022 Share #98 Posted February 23, 2022 Bought an MP in 2007. Kept it for about 10 years then, like an idiot, I sold it. Never any problem at all, on any level. Going on two years with my M-A. All good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted February 23, 2022 Share #99 Posted February 23, 2022 The shutter curtain on my mp got unhooked, a problem Don has never seen before, so he said. Fixed and ok since, except for the frame counter not resetting to zero when I open the bottom plate... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfairclough Posted February 24, 2022 Share #100 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) On 2/2/2022 at 6:20 AM, Huss said: The film counter failed on my MP. Sent it to DAG to repair, and he went off! Told me that if this was Mechanical Perfection, why did Leica replace the original metal parts (up to the M5) with cheap plastic bits in all the Ms after that for the film counter. Apparently he's repaired many.. But absolutely love the camera, and now it works perfectly. The repair was $170-ish and honestly if it fails again 10, 20 years from now, I'll happily pay for the repair because the rest of the camera is so nice. It however is a bummer that Leica used higher quality pieces on the older cameras. Wow! I have a late 2020 Leica MP production model and the counter also failed me a year later. I only got round to getting it repaired in November and it took until last week for the parts to arrive in Australia for it to be replaced. I thought I was unlucky, but maybe it is a problem. My repair was free/under warranty. Edited February 24, 2022 by maxfairclough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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