platel Posted March 4, 2021 Share #1 Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) There was a tiny smudge on the sensor of my M10. As I still had a set of wet&dry swabs from The Netherlands, and as I previously routinely cleaned the sensors of my camera's in the past, I swabbed it... 🙀 The wet swab must have been over date. It left a huge amount of smudges and disintegrated. ***stress*** I live in Manila, and they don's sell wet sensor swabs here anywhere. So ended up ordering them from China. You can check out my experience in this video that I recorded this afternoon: https://youtu.be/G5J7NVt0adA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 4, 2021 by platel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318569-never-use-old-wet-sensor-swabs-to-clean-your-sensor/?do=findComment&comment=4153224'>More sharing options...
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lucerne Posted March 4, 2021 Share #2 Posted March 4, 2021 can you please PM me and let me know what the swab brand is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted March 4, 2021 Share #3 Posted March 4, 2021 nasty cracks on the VF window Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 4, 2021 Share #4 Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, colonel said: nasty cracks on the VF window I think those are reflections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted March 4, 2021 Share #5 Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, jdlaing said: I think those are reflections. phew! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted March 4, 2021 Share #6 Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, platel said: I live in Manila, and they don's sell wet sensor swabs here anywhere. Manila, Philippines ? There is a leicastore at Greenbelt 5, they could clean the sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platel Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted March 4, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, frame-it said: Manila, Philippines ? There is a leicastore at Greenbelt 5, they could clean the sensor. They couldn’t. I was there, but it is only a Showroom. They don’t do repairs. For repairs they send camera’s to Singapore. But since the pandemic they haven’t been able to ship there... Repair time in normal times could take as long as 4-6 months. In pandemic time... unknown... Contacted Leica Singapore directly, could ship it there with FedEx myself, but still the repair times (as always with Leica) are horrific. That’s why I chose to give it a try myself. If it didn’t work, I could send it to Singapore... Luckily it did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platel Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted March 4, 2021 8 hours ago, colonel said: phew! Haha it indeed looks like the VF got badly hit right in the middle, but indeed they are just reflections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted March 4, 2021 Share #9 Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, platel said: They couldn’t. I was there, but it is only a Showroom. They don’t do repairs. For repairs they send camera’s to Singapore. But since the pandemic they haven’t been able to ship there... Repair time in normal times could take as long as 4-6 months. In pandemic time... unknown... Contacted Leica Singapore directly, could ship it there with FedEx myself, but still the repair times (as always with Leica) are horrific. That’s why I chose to give it a try myself. If it didn’t work, I could send it to Singapore... Luckily it did. Platel Can i repeat my request for you to send me a personal message via this forum, advising me the brand name of the combined wet/dry cleaning kit you used. I have checked the Alibaba site and there is a large selection from which to choose. Thanks Edited March 4, 2021 by lucerne Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platel Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted March 4, 2021 11 hours ago, lucerne said: can you please PM me and let me know what the swab brand is. I will, but I will also share it here in case others also want to know. Here in the Philippines you can use “Lazada” to order stuff online, mostly from China. I looked everywhere else to buy the ones I know, they are from ‘Green Clean’, but they are nowhere here in Asia. Ended up buying a set of ‘Huanor’ HN-P1 Dry+Wet swabs. They luckily are very good quality. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vkdev Posted March 5, 2021 Share #11 Posted March 5, 2021 Wow. I sssscratched the sensor on my m240 too and sold my camera a year later. the new sensor ~1500-2000 eur Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platel Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted March 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, vkdev said: Wow. I sssscratched the sensor on my m240 too and sold my camera a year later. the new sensor ~1500-2000 eur Luckily it was not scratched... But was already afraid of those prices! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vkdev Posted March 5, 2021 Share #13 Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, platel said: Luckily it was not scratched... Really? The sensor looks very scary. It's good that there are no scratches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good To Be Retired Posted March 5, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) On 3/4/2021 at 6:34 AM, colonel said: nasty cracks on the VF window I thought maybe the OP just had odd fingerprints I had some leftover actual SensorSwab brand swabs that were pre-wetted with Eclipse and sealed in a foil pouch. The product is discontinued now, but I had kept some in the bottom of my camera case and tried one on an M240. I didn't realize at the the time that the Eclipse had evaporated in the package, leaving a completely dry swab. Left a mess that looked a lot like yours. Scared the hell out of me. Wonder if this was the same brand? Edited March 5, 2021 by Good To Be Retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platel Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted March 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Good To Be Retired said: I thought maybe the OP just had odd fingerprints I had some leftover actual SensorSwab brand swabs that were pre-wetted with Eclipse and sealed in a foil pouch. The product is discontinued now, but I had kept some in the bottom of my camera case and tried one on an M240. I didn't realize at the the time that the Eclipse had evaporated in the package, leaving a completely dry swab. Left a mess that looked a lot like yours. Scared the hell out of me. Wonder if this was the same brand? The old ones that I had were from Green Clean. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318569-never-use-old-wet-sensor-swabs-to-clean-your-sensor/?do=findComment&comment=4154649'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2021 Share #16 Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 12:37 AM, lucerne said: Platel Can i repeat my request for you to send me a personal message via this forum, advising me the brand name of the combined wet/dry cleaning kit you used. I have checked the Alibaba site and there is a large selection from which to choose. Thanks Don’t ever use the junk from Alibaba ! There is no reliable quality control nor enforceable liability in case of product-induced sensor damage. The only reliable dry/wet system that I know of is by Green Clean. And even then, they are often too wet and carry the risk of moistening and corroding the electronic circuitry next to your sensor. But what is wrong by using a bottle/swab system from for instance Visible Dust or another reputable supplier? But do you need a wet clean at all? Often a blow with a blower bulb ( not your mouth or compressed air!) is enough, or failing that a swipe with the Arctic Butterfly. The little vacuum cleaner by Green Clean works well too. Next step is careful use of a a suitable -like EyeLead for Sony- Gel stick. Wobble, not pull and never try to swipe. Only tenacious sticky dust like lubricant splatter or Pollen needs a wet clean. Leica sensors need products that are guaranteed for Sony sensors - even if some of the sensors are not made by Sony. The reason is the relatively thin cover glass. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 6, 2021 8 hours ago, platel said: The old ones that I had were from Green Clean. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Those are really antiques! That foam swab has completely disintegrated. You probably got plasticizers from the foam on your sensor - those are very hard to remove. They look like this now: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2021 Share #18 Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 12:16 AM, platel said: They couldn’t. I was there, but it is only a Showroom. They don’t do repairs. For repairs they send camera’s to Singapore. But since the pandemic they haven’t been able to ship there... Repair time in normal times could take as long as 4-6 months. In pandemic time... unknown... Contacted Leica Singapore directly, could ship it there with FedEx myself, but still the repair times (as always with Leica) are horrific. That’s why I chose to give it a try myself. If it didn’t work, I could send it to Singapore... Luckily it did. Sensor cleaning is not a repair... Google yields this : https://www.facebook.com/Tarlac-Camera-Sensor-Cleaning-Service-102285141239766/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted March 6, 2021 Share #19 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) JaapvDon’t ever use the junk from Alibaba ! There is no reliable quality control nor enforceable liability in case of product-induced sensor damage" Jaapv. Alibaba, Ebay, et al, dont buy, examine, service, stock, dispatch, handle or sell anything! (but i'm sure you knew that). For any reader that needs to know, they are simply the conduit between registered independent buyers and registered sellers of a huge range of products. The online platform enables and supports the buyer-seller transaction comprehensively. Turnover 2019 Us$50.9 billion I agree that some advertised products may be junk, but others are not. The customer has choice and should use their common sense. I've used the platform without problem for 15 years. As far as choosing a wet / dry sensor cleaning product, there is sometimes a need but I advise only buying what you need, at the time you need it. All products deteriorate / evaporate over time. Hence, never use an old/stored product. Even Green Clean and Visible Dust. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding. The OP is satisfied with his purchase so we needn't feel concerned or encourage him to reverse his decision. Of course, the identification of a cleaning service in the Philipines is useful. I can see that the packaging of the swabs they are using shows them to be of Chinese origin (as expected). Edited March 6, 2021 by lucerne Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted March 6, 2021 Share #20 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) @platel I have always used these to clean my sensors - never have had a problem in 5+ years of sensor cleaning 2-3 times per year: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/259157-REG/Giottos_AA1900_Rocket_Air_Blower.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/127525-REG/Photographic_Solutions_EC_Eclipse_Optic_Lens_Cleaning.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1165567-REG/photographic_solutions_us3box_ultra_swab_type_3.html B&H will ship to Manila as far as I know - and to everywhere else, for that matter. Edited March 6, 2021 by Herr Barnack 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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