Jeff S Posted May 8, 2021 Share #321 Posted May 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, Rick said: I don't do this much, but sometimes I close my right eye(distance) and use my near eye to get an idea of composition. Sometimes, I close one eye or the other to get an idea of OOF near to clear far... or close the other eye to get the idea of clear far focus with OOF near(I mean very near like less than 1m). When an eye specialist engages with a camera.... 🤩 Jeff 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick Posted May 8, 2021 Share #322 Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jeff S said: When an eye specialist engages with a camera.... 🤩 Jeff Jono and I have monovision correction. We have perfect distance vision with one eye and with the other eye we have perfect near vision but, only at a specific near distance. For us that is about the distance you would hold a cell phone. Beyond that clear near focus distance, the clarity drops off like maybe an f2 or f2.8 aperture. We see distance blur when we use just our near eye but, the near focus object is clear... like f2.8. We use our right eye for the rangefinder and the left to chimp... it works perfectly! Our brains are too stupid to know what is going on, it seems seamless to us. We can't tell one eye is blurry when the other is clear. Edited May 8, 2021 by Rick 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 8, 2021 Share #323 Posted May 8, 2021 Jeff, Now you know why Jono and I take such good Photographs! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 8, 2021 Share #324 Posted May 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Rick said: Jeff, Now you know why Jono and I take such good Photographs! Well, I always say it’s about having a good eye, not the gear. Jeff 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 16, 2021 Share #325 Posted May 16, 2021 Following having had a quick look at the review of 24-70 L lens by Farkas and Lehrer, where I rather like their style, I wondered if they had reviewed the 35 APO. Sure enough they had and I will watch it later today. However I was a bit taken aback by the number of reviews of this lens, dozens of them. It strikes me that it might have been a better idea if Leica had handed a few less of these lenses to reviewers and got rather more into the hands of paying (and often very loyal) customers. Other than the in depth assessment by Jono and maybe Farkas and Lehrer, I cannot see what else is is needed in the way of reviews, other than maybe a Chinese language one for that market. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 17, 2021 Share #326 Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) On 5/16/2021 at 8:00 AM, wlaidlaw said: I cannot see what else is is needed in the way of reviews It is always in the back of my mind that the two reviews you mention are not totally independent of the mother ship. Not certain if Jono is paid as a Beta tester, but David is a Dealer. That said, I was very impressed with the depth of the David/Josh review, and the comparative charts they show are very powerful. So, it is always important for me to read Sean Reids thoughts on his subscription site, as he is pretty independent in giving a balanced opinion, although he too gets Beta/early copies. Good news is he comes too much the same conclusion. Edited May 17, 2021 by pedaes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted May 17, 2021 Share #327 Posted May 17, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) where can i find and download the pdf with the review? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 17, 2021 Share #328 Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, kengai said: where can i find and download the pdf with the review? Not sure what or who you are asking. If you are talking about the David Farkas review, there is no pdf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted May 17, 2021 Share #329 Posted May 17, 2021 are there reviews in pdf? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted May 17, 2021 Share #330 Posted May 17, 2021 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 17, 2021 Share #331 Posted May 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, kengai said: are there reviews in pdf? As in 'there is no pdf'. But I am sure you meant 'thanks for taking trouble to answer'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted May 18, 2021 Share #332 Posted May 18, 2021 9 hours ago, pedaes said: As in 'there is no pdf'. But I am sure you meant 'thanks for taking trouble to answer'. of course, thank you anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFriendly Posted May 19, 2021 Share #333 Posted May 19, 2021 Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but how long is the wait for the 35 APO? If I place a pre-order today, how long before I receive my copy? A dealer told me it's over a year, which I find interesting; I don't see any price gouging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 20, 2021 Share #334 Posted May 20, 2021 My dealer has apparently been told that the next batch of 35 APO lenses is due to arrive in the UK next week (customs clearance and other Brexit lunacy red tape dependant) and supposedly they should get an allocation of one or two lenses, subject to the size of batch that Leica UK actually receives. Even it if is just one lens allocated to my dealer, that one has my name on it. After I decided a bit over a month ago, to swap my 35 ASPH Summicron for the APO, I was a bit surprised that the dealers I spoke with, to get a part exchange indication for the 35 Summicron against the 35 APO, that I would have been either top or second on that dealer's waiting list. The conclusion I come to therefore is that actual hard orders for the 35 APO are not currently extensive. I suspect that most Leica RF enthusiasts will already have at least one M mount 35mm lens, mostly the 35 ASPH Summicron, ASPH Summilux or FLE. I have a very good Summilux ASPH but for travel, being the chromed brass body version (Final Edition, 2006), it is quite heavy, which is why I bought a 35 ASPH Summicron about 6 years ago. When new, the Summicron had to go straight back to Solms for a focusing fault and I have never been convinced it is quite as good as it should be (not the focus which is now adequate but it seems to lack punch and has less than totally pleasant soap bubble bokeh). To be blunt, other than a tiny amount of additional vignetting, I cannot tell which photos were taken with the ASPH Summicron and which with my 1961 LTM 35/2.8 Summaron and I feel I should easily be able to see, given that the ASPH is 4 or 5 generations of lens further on. The Summicron is not as good a performer as my 35 ASPH Summilux. It is because therefore, I don't think I have a particularly wonderful example of the ASPH Summicron, that I decided to upgrade to the APO but many Leica RF users will be perfectly happy with the 35 lens or lenses they already have. If you put an order in now, I would be surprised if you had to wait much more than a couple of months. That does depend however that Leica are not having production difficulties with this lens. Getting 4 aspherical surfaces totally correct and managing to cram 10 elements into such a compact body takes some doing. Just look at the enormous lens Voigtlander have ended up with for their 35 APO. One would also hope that given the price of this lens, QC will be extensive or certainly much more critical than it has been in the recent past. I suggested some time ago that Leica must have employed Mr. Magoo as their lens QC inspector, from some of the howlers that had been allowed to go out of the factory gate, where a two minute inspection with a live view M camera, indicated a focusing fault. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 20, 2021 Share #335 Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: given the price of this lens, Compared to 50 Summilux / 50 APO and 35 Summilux / 50 Summilux price differentials, this lens looks a bit of a bargain. Hope you get yours as promised. Think you are correct that production rather than demand is the issue. According to US friend same situation there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share #336 Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 6:00 PM, kengai said: are there reviews in pdf? I can probably send you a pdf of mine if you're interested? if so PM me with your email address best Jono Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share #337 Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/17/2021 at 4:57 PM, pedaes said: It is always in the back of my mind that the two reviews you mention are not totally independent of the mother ship. Not certain if Jono is paid as a Beta tester, but David is a Dealer. That said, I was very impressed with the depth of the David/Josh review, and the comparative charts they show are very powerful. So, it is always important for me to read Sean Reids thoughts on his subscription site, as he is pretty independent in giving a balanced opinion, although he too gets Beta/early copies. Good news is he comes too much the same conclusion. Hi There Since it's in the back of your mind . . . Well, as a tester (sometimes alpha, always beta), of course I'm not independent of the mothership, added to which, my primary job is to report problems to Leica (rather than to the rest of the world). On the other hand, they never ever tell me what to write, and never have, and I am not, and never have been paid as a tester - added to which I don't earn any money from the reviews (either here or on my website - no ads, no clickthrough). On the other hand I do ask Leica to read through my articles to check I'm not getting anything wrong and very occasionally they'll pick up on something. On the other hand, you can be sure that I'll never say something which I don't believe to be the case and I'll never leave something out because it's detrimental - and Leica wouldn't want me to either. I also don't aim to make money from my photography (except for the occasional wedding) - most professional work I take on is for charities and I don't charge for that, which frees me up to some extent. Sean Reid is a big mate, and we often discuss kit and ideas. Does that help? probably not 😂 Sometimes good to write it down though! All the best 8 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted May 20, 2021 Share #338 Posted May 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, jonoslack said: pdf of mine I took it there = their and he was talking about David Farkas's review. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share #339 Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, pedaes said: I took it there = their and he was talking about David Farkas's review. That's what I reckoned, but I thought it was good to show willing 😁 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 20, 2021 Share #340 Posted May 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, jonoslack said: Since it's in the back of your mind . . . ... On the other hand, they never ever tell me ... ... On the other hand I do ask Leica ... ... On the other hand, you can be sure ... Jono, You are The Juggler and I claim my £5! Pete. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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