TL23mm AND/OR Sigma 30mm?

[Le Chef]

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It may just be a Spring time itch, but I’m wondering whether there’s any merit in adding a Sigma 30mm f.4 to my TL 23 f2 or whether they’re just too close in focal length to make sense. I already have an 11-23 an 18-56 and Sigma 56mm f1.4.

MTIA!

[wda]

49 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

It may just be a Spring time itch, but I’m wondering whether there’s any merit in adding a Sigma 30mm f.4 to my TL 23 f2 or whether they’re just too close in focal length to make sense. I already have an 11-23 an 18-56 and Sigma 56mm f1.4.

MTIA!

No. Not a convincing choice.

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[Le Chef]

3 hours ago, wda said:

No. Not a convincing choice.

It should read 30mm f1.4 fyi

[Gregm61]

The 30mm f1.4 Sigma is certainly inexpensive enough it wouldn't take much of an investment to scratch that itch.

Edited March 1, 2021 by Gregm61

[Marac]

Maybe the 45 would sit better in your current line up

 

[tommonego@gmail.com]

I just ordered an 11-23, I am wondering if my TL 23 will just sit in the bag now. Will have to do some comparisons. I did just pick up a TTArtisan 35 f1.4 L mount, a tiny lens, $78, manual not AF. Not bad but just not a focal length I use much. Just an option to keep in mind.

[Boojay]

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I find it really hard not to scratch if I have an itch - well done all of you that are able to manage without calamine!!  😄

[Le Chef]

13 minutes ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

I just ordered an 11-23, I am wondering if my TL 23 will just sit in the bag now. Will have to do some comparisons. I did just pick up a TTArtisan 35 f1.4 L mount, a tiny lens, $78, manual not AF. Not bad but just not a focal length I use much. Just an option to keep in mind.

I find I use both and enjoy using both. I think it can be a bit like going to a favorite watch (another dangerous affliction!) or particular item of clothing: you use it for a few days then switch. I’m continuing my “No Particular Place to Go” flaneur walking tour of my neighborhood and typically do 4-5 miles a day, cross-crossing from lake front to urban environments. The 11-23 is ideal for urban shooting (IMHO) particularly from low angles that test your knees!

[Gregm61]

1 hour ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

I just ordered an 11-23, I am wondering if my TL 23 will just sit in the bag now. Will have to do some comparisons. I did just pick up a TTArtisan 35 f1.4 L mount, a tiny lens, $78, manual not AF. Not bad but just not a focal length I use much. Just an option to keep in mind.

I think you’ll find you use both. I think of the 11-23 as an 11mm prime with the ability to zoom in as needed and the 23mm f2 as the more flexible  prime option at that focal length.  

Outdoors in good light the 11-23 can be used in place of the 23/2 unless you want to utilize the faster aperture to more separate the background than the zoom at 23mm and f4.5 is capable of. Indoors or at lower light levels the use of the prime is a much more obvious choice.

The bigger question is the bag you are using and how much room you have to carry all the options you want to have. The Tenba Sling bag I use with my CL outfit allows me to pick between 4-5 lenses I want to have access to so the three zooms and two prime options are typically what I’m totting around.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Gregm61:

I think you’ll find you use both. I think of the 11-23 as an 11mm prime with the ability to zoom in as needed and the 23mm f2 as the more flexible  prime option at that focal length.  

Outdoors in good light the 11-23 can be used in place of the 23/2 unless you want to utilize the faster aperture to more separate the background than the zoom at 23mm and f4.5 is capable of. Indoors or at lower light levels the use of the prime is a much more obvious choice.

The bigger question is the bag you are using and how much room you have to carry all the options you want to have. The Tenba Sling bag I use with my CL outfit allows me to pick between 4-5 lenses I want to have access to so the three zooms and two prime options are typically what I’m totting around.

I have a small Domke bag, right now the biggest lens in it is my Tokina 11-16, which the 11-23 will replace, and save some room. Otherwise it will have 55 f1.4 7Artisan a nice small lens, a 90 Elmarit or 105 Micro Nikkor, and a 135 Tele-Elmar, either the 23 or the 11-23 will be on the camera. 

[Marac]

Personally when I had the 23 cron and the 11-23 the cron was almost sold the same week.

I prefer the 35mm lux for anything the cron can do.

When I visited the Lakes in UK the 11-23 was the ultimate star of the show and when I switched to the S1R the 11-23 was the last lens I sold with a very heavy heart.

In fact, I can feel a little itch for another now I have a CL again

[Shawn30]

Not sure if it’s been noted already but the Sigma is a little soft at the edges. I was comparing some photos taken with the 18 and the 30, and it was noticeable. I’m not complaining for the price it’s sweet but I think the 23 has better IQ wide open 

[Le Chef]

Thanks All - sometimes you just need to change something. Getting the 11-23 back on the camera has been a reinvigorating change.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

Now that I have the 11-23 I think it is a little better than the TL23, see my owl photos on the CL image thread. But it is not as good at f2-f4. The 23 is also more compact. If the Sigma is fairly inexpensive I could see going that direction.

[RustyBug]

Close focus capability of the Sigma 30 is a nice function if you like that.  I added the 28/2.8 Elmarit, but have kept the Sigma, still.  Obviously different size optic, but the 30/1.4 makes a nice "normal" at 45mm equivalent for when I want AF or close focus, or should need the extra light.

Edited March 13, 2021 by RustyBug

[huwm]

On 3/13/2021 at 2:50 PM, RustyBug said:

Close focus capability of the Sigma 30 is a nice function if you like that.  I added the 28/2.8 Elmarit, but have kept the Sigma, still.  Obviously different size optic, but the 30/1.4 makes a nice "normal" at 45mm equivalent for when I want AF or close focus, or should need the extra light.

At 52mm filter It also takes an inexpensive marumi macro