sandro Posted February 22, 2021 Share #1 Posted February 22, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Accidently I came across a variation of the Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm that I was not aware of before. This one looks exactly as my Tele-Elmarit-M 2.8/90mm, but is bears the name Tele-Elmarit instead of Tele-Elmarit-M. Also the scripture on the front is different and contains the serial number, which in my version is engraved on the aperture ring. This is the link: Leica Tele-Elmarit 2,8/90mm 11800 // 31687,11 | eBay Is this an early version, before the name was changed to Tele-Elmarit-M perhaps? Lex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Hi sandro, Take a look here Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm for M. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted February 22, 2021 Share #2 Posted February 22, 2021 Yes early models have not the suffix M. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4147017'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted February 22, 2021 Share #3 Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, lct said: Yes early models have not the suffix M... Just to confirm what lct has already written there is a London dealership which, currently, has for sale #2 585 XXX similarly engraved which is claimed (and I trust this dealer's word 100%) to be one of the first 500 examples of the 90mm f2.8 T-E ever made (FWIW the dealership is asking £299 / 345 Euros). Philip. Edited February 22, 2021 by pippy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted February 23, 2021 Share #4 Posted February 23, 2021 FWIW I have 2695XXX (serial number engraved on the front as above) and which has no M engraved either. Another Leica anomaly. At some point they obviously made the change and whilst it may have been on all lenses from a specific serial number, from what I've seen of such anomalies I would not be surprised If Leica had another way of doing things which resulted in a mix of styles of engraving within the serial number series. Nice lens but haze can be difficult to clean and flare can be a problem. It absolutely needs hood IUFOO (12575)! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 23, 2021 Share #5 Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) According to Wiki (Source is Puts) a Lens in the 2.8xx.xxx ought to be marked as "M" : SN Start SN End Product Year Total 2585501 2588500 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit (ELC) 1973 3000 2656951 2659450 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit (ELC) 1973 2500 2695501 2697500 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M 1974 2000 2726921 **2728920 **135mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit (ELC) 1976 [2000] 2792651 2794650 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M (ELC) 1976 2000 2831351 2832350 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit-M 1977 1000 But all of us do known well that those data are often not the Bible... 😁 Anyway the London dealer is truthful about its 2.585.xxx .By chance, in my archives i have pictures of a 2.967.9xx ("Tele - Elmarit Leitz Canada") and a 2.968.8xx ("Tele - Elmarit - M Leitz Lens Made in Canada" Edited February 23, 2021 by luigi bertolotti 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted February 23, 2021 Thanks for all your contributions! Lex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 23, 2021 Share #7 Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) On my Leitz catalogues before 1977 it is "Elmarit" and after it becomes "Elmarit-M". I have not the catalogues from 1977 to 1981 so i don't know exactly when the change occurred. Edited February 23, 2021 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 23, 2021 Share #8 Posted February 23, 2021 From my archives, eight serials for Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90, all made in Canada : 2069742 ("fat" 1st version 11800, no M); 2070898 (idem); 2071194 (idem, chrome); 2342556 (idem, black); 2490555 (idem); 2793033 (new definition, but always lacking M); 2941392 and 3201480 (both black new version, only the last number with Tele-Elmarit-M). Let's add that all lenses came in my collection with 11252 and 14269 caps, and with either 12575 normal or 11250 supple hoods. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Two "fat" 11800 versions. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Two "fat" 11800 versions. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4147349'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 23, 2021 Share #9 Posted February 23, 2021 😉The old "fat" (or "nano") is definitely nicer than the TE... 😎... just a question of feel, of course... but if you handle a "fat" and handle a TE , you touch the difference from how items were designed and built in the '60s and the '70s 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 24, 2021 Share #10 Posted February 24, 2021 My last one (I've had three "thin T-E 90" over time bought/sold) is TELE-ELMARIT (without -M), serial 2.871.xxx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph. Posted February 26, 2021 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2021 After using for a couple of years I found my slim T-E (with clean glass) less sharp & contrasty than I wanted,, even when used with my wobbly, snap fastened & ancient 90&136mm sunshade, so it was replaced with the "Voigtländer" apo lanthar 90mm. with a sunshade that mjust be screwded on but stays on. p. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 26, 2021 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) A typical example of fun passion for collectors 😁 : my 2 Tele Elmarit... one from the first batch (Canada), the other from the last batch (Germany)... (*) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (*) first "official", to be precise... some items in the 2.001.xxx are reported... 🙄 Edited February 26, 2021 by luigi bertolotti 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! (*) first "official", to be precise... some items in the 2.001.xxx are reported... 🙄 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4149479'>More sharing options...
didier Posted February 28, 2021 Share #13 Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) My wife’s late Grandfather had some Leica Gear, and among the stuff I found Friday is a copy of this 90. Cosmetics don’t look good - almost a beater - focusing is a bit stiff, but Lenses are clean and results very nice Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tele-Elmarit M 90 on Leica CL (digital) Edited February 28, 2021 by didier 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tele-Elmarit M 90 on Leica CL (digital) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4150412'>More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted March 1, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 1, 2021 Quote My early 90 Tele Elmarits are: 2070036, 2070110 and 2070734, all chrome and all fat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muso Posted June 9, 2021 Share #15 Posted June 9, 2021 The Tele-Elmarit M is a great little lens to take on a trip. Normally, I wouldn't bother bringing a 90mm - I get by very well on my travels with a 21, a 35, and a 50. But this 90 is so small it's no problem to slip it in somewhere. And sometimes it is very nice to have. For night shots from the hotel window, using a tripod, there's almost zero coma, and the overall look is very good. Here's a pic from when I was testing mine - I like to test my lenses on cats, because: 1. Cat fur is a great test for sharpness and microcontrast; 2. There's usually a cat available when I need one; 3. I don't have to get model releases from them lol. Mine's a later German production thin version, s/n 3,383,xxx. From what I understand, the German and Canadian versions are absolutely identical, right down to the gram in weight. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4216453'>More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted June 9, 2021 Share #16 Posted June 9, 2021 I have a fat and a thin. The thin only arrived this week. I did have a boxed thin one some years ago but it was too clean to use. The fat has a nice well used patina. The thin one is marked “-M” but the fat one is not. If I saw a chrome fat one I would probably buy it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4216600'>More sharing options...
wizard Posted June 9, 2021 Share #17 Posted June 9, 2021 Am 26.2.2021 um 20:09 schrieb luigi bertolotti: my 2 Tele Elmarit... one from the first batch (Canada), the other from the last batch (Germany)... Wow, I did not know that the Tele-Elmarit existed in chrome also. Nice lenses! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted June 9, 2021 Share #18 Posted June 9, 2021 After using a borrowed M2 & chrome TE (fat) in about 1967, when the local Leica dealer got in a black TE I bought it and my M4 body - so the FAT TE was my first Leica lens. After a few years my TE went very soft and low contrast with no clear plane of focus, so it went in storage for decades. Then I had Gus Lazzari check it, and he said a rear element was out of position, and did a CLA. It has been excellent ever since. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 9, 2021 Share #19 Posted June 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, wizard said: Wow, I did not know that the Tele-Elmarit existed in chrome also. Nice lenses! It does in my house Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318287-tele-elmarit-2890mm-for-m/?do=findComment&comment=4216654'>More sharing options...
wizard Posted June 10, 2021 Share #20 Posted June 10, 2021 vor 19 Stunden schrieb ianman: It does in my house That's a nice one, too. Actually, my comment was directed to what I thought was a chrome thin Tele-Elmarit shown above by Luigi. Prompted by your post, I now had a closer look at Luigi's chrome lens, and it would appear to be a twin of yours, that is, a chrome fat Tele-Elmarit. I knew those existed, but have so far never seen a chrome thin Tele-Elmarit (and it seems they do not exist). Best Andy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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