Edwired Posted February 22, 2021 Share #1 Posted February 22, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys! This is my first post here and typically I'm looking for help. I recently returned an M9 because I didn't like the workflow with it and bought an M-P at a great price with all my redundancy, furlough and student loan. I took 3 shots with the M-P before it gave me a card error and refused to save anymore. I can't quite describe the symptoms as I don't know what causes it, I think I can bring it on by basically putting the card in and out of my computer and camera, maybe a format on the computer then a format in the body. It's really weird. Now I have managed to get it to behave 99% of the time and I've had a couple good days street shooting with it and my cheapy 7Artisans 35mm and I loved it, the photos are sharper than any from the 2 years with my Fuji X-Pro 2 but if it's not working properly I can't risk having bought a paperweight so expensive. The card in question is a known good one that worked perfectly in the M9 whilst I had that. Sandisk SDHC 32GB 80MB/s Class 10/UHS 1 Essentially I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this? And if you were in my shoes, what would you do (I've got time to through it back at the shop if I decide it's properly faulty)? Thank you in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaeger Posted February 22, 2021 Share #2 Posted February 22, 2021 1) format the card in your MP240 2) use another card 3) send me your MP240 and look away, add me as your best friend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted February 23, 2021 Share #3 Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Known good cards are good until the instant they aren't. Also, a so-so card may work in camera A, but not in camera B. This is true even when both cameras are the same model. I have 3 or 4 cards that work in some devices, but not others. I don't use them. I have no good reason to not throw them away. My bad reason is that I wasn't sure they were bad until I tried another card that didn't give me any issues. I'm pretty sure that one of my so-so cards was a counterfeit. I'd try another card and not worry about the camera unless that card gives you issues, too, My favorite cards are SanDisk Extreme Pro. I currently like 16 GB cards because they are cheap. I'd rather carry multiple cards than trust all images to one card that could fail. A 16 GB card can hold about 600 images on my M 262. That's plenty for one card in my use. If I shot video -- not possible with my M -- I might use a larger card. Edit: Just checked... the 16 GB cards I like aren't available on Amazon (for a reasonable price) any more. Have to get at least a 32 GB card. I should probably buy some while they are still available. Edited February 23, 2021 by marchyman card availability Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 24, 2021 Share #4 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Welcome to the forum . Format the card for free with SD Card Formatter and please report here if it does not work (rare). Edited February 24, 2021 by lct 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwired Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 9:56 PM, jaeger said: 1) format the card in your MP240 2) use another card 3) send me your MP240 and look away, add me as your best friend. 1) Tried that, sometimes it worked other times it threw up the error again after being in and out of the computer 2) I had no other cards that would strictly speaking be compatible with the 240 3) Just gone back to the dealer unless you want to intercept the parcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwired Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 7:32 PM, marchyman said: Known good cards are good until the instant they aren't. Also, a so-so card may work in camera A, but not in camera B. This is true even when both cameras are the same model. I have 3 or 4 cards that work in some devices, but not others. I don't use them. I have no good reason to not throw them away. My bad reason is that I wasn't sure they were bad until I tried another card that didn't give me any issues. I'm pretty sure that one of my so-so cards was a counterfeit. I'd try another card and not worry about the camera unless that card gives you issues, too, My favorite cards are SanDisk Extreme Pro. I currently like 16 GB cards because they are cheap. I'd rather carry multiple cards than trust all images to one card that could fail. A 16 GB card can hold about 600 images on my M 262. That's plenty for one card in my use. If I shot video -- not possible with my M -- I might use a larger card. Edit: Just checked... the 16 GB cards I like aren't available on Amazon (for a reasonable price) any more. Have to get at least a 32 GB card. I should probably buy some while they are still available. I bought my card from the uni tech store - I'd hope it's not counterfeit otherwise I'll need to inspect some of the film in the fridge, my negative sheets and a roll of masking tape to make sure they're okay too. This card was a Sandisk Ultra. I can't remember why I feel like this but I have some aversion to Sandisk. I make sure the primary card in my X Pro2 is a Lexar, seem to have some faint memory of having a Sandisk go funny on me years ago. I found the 240 was only quoting me around 670 images to the 32GB card, I was shooting JPG + DNG however (I know people here will say that slows the camera down etc...). I've sent the camera back now. I decided a 240 is definitely a better camera for me than the M9, when I buy my next I'll also get an extra card of a different brand so I can always play around. This M-P was literally all the money I have in the world and I can't be chancing it turning into a paperweight or ruining a days worth of good photos, I also wasn't impressed with the dealer because of petty things like paying postage on a £2400 camera and not including a power cable or half the original case candy. I hope they keep making 32GB cards for a bit. I guess my Dad doesn't look as silly now keeping a couple of 256MB - 2GB cards at home in case he ever needs them for something bizarre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwired Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted February 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, lct said: Welcome to the forum . Format the card for free with SD Card Formatter and please report here if it does not work (rare). Thank you! I did try the SD Formatter in my cycle of formatting and ejecting to see if I could provoke an error and I can't remember if it did or not. I know it's not the be all end all but to me if the camera can't format the card to its liking itself, I don't think it can be trusted. As I've said above the M-P has been sent back. I'll find a normal 240, save myself a couple hundred pounds and get an extra card so I have more to play with should it happen again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 25, 2021 Share #8 Posted February 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Edwired said: I know it's not the be all end all but to me if the camera can't format the card to its liking itself, I don't think it can be trusted. As you like . I never format my cards in my cameras personally. Only with SD Card Formatter. Never got the least problem with any card since then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jefferson Posted February 25, 2021 Share #9 Posted February 25, 2021 I use M240 and it's a great camera! It even worked reliably with Godox trigger and V1 (both for Fuji so it's manual only). It'll serve you well for years to come before M10 series become cheap enough to afford. 🤪 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted February 26, 2021 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2021 I never forma Am 25.2.2021 um 02:16 schrieb Edwired: Thank you! I did try the SD Formatter in my cycle of formatting and ejecting to see if I could provoke an error and I can't remember if it did or not. I know it's not the be all end all but to me if the camera can't format the card to its liking itself, I don't think it can be trusted. As I've said above the M-P has been sent back. I'll find a normal 240, save myself a couple hundred pounds and get an extra card so I have more to play with should it happen again. That is absolutely correct. Formatting a card is basic stuff and every camera can do that. If something goes wrong, either the camera or the card is defective. Since my first digital camera, I format the card in the camera without problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 26, 2021 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, tom.w.bn said: .. Formatting a card is basic stuff and every camera can do that. If something goes wrong, either the camera or the card is defective. Since my first digital camera, I format the card in the camera without problems. Hello Tom, Not every camera, no way to do that with M-D ( so many things M-D can NOT, I wonder why I use it 😉 ! ). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted February 26, 2021 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2021 vor 7 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: Hello Tom, Not every camera, no way to do that with M-D ( so many things M-D can NOT, I wonder why I use it 😉 ! ). Ok, sorry. I always forget that these curiosities exist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 26, 2021 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2021 Don't worry Tom, this will not be the last weird Leica things we will see. To Edwired, as others said, SD card may be faulty (or camera/SD combo just at tolerance specifications). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS Posted February 26, 2021 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) On 2/22/2021 at 4:34 PM, Edwired said: Hi guys! This is my first post here and typically I'm looking for help. I recently returned an M9 because I didn't like the workflow with it and bought an M-P at a great price with all my redundancy, furlough and student loan. The card in question is a known good one that worked perfectly in the M9 whilst I had that. Sandisk SDHC 32GB 80MB/s Class 10/UHS 1 Essentially I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this? And if you were in my shoes, what would you do (I've got time to through it back at the shop if I decide it's properly faulty)? Thank you in advance! What version of firmware was in the M9? The Sandisk UHS-1 series took some liberties with the SD standard to get better speed, and is non compatible with many cameras. I went through 3 UHS-1 cards without ever putting them into the M9 when this issue was noted years ago. Two of the three failed, one with an Olympus EP2 and another with the Format utility from the SD card organization. https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109092 Try another card. Edited February 26, 2021 by BrianS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2021 Share #15 Posted March 6, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 10:34 PM, Edwired said: what would you do Buy another card. At a reputable shop, the present one may even be a fake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good To Be Retired Posted March 6, 2021 Share #16 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) On 2/23/2021 at 1:32 PM, marchyman said: Known good cards are good until the instant they aren't. Voice of experience no doubt Edited March 6, 2021 by Good To Be Retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good To Be Retired Posted March 6, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) On 2/24/2021 at 7:16 PM, Edwired said: to see if I could provoke an error and I can't remember if it did or not. This make me wonder if you are experiencing some sort of user error. Edited March 6, 2021 by Good To Be Retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwired Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted March 7, 2021 10 hours ago, jaapv said: Buy another card. At a reputable shop, the present one may even be a fake. When I get my next 240 based camera I will certainly get another card so I have a couple to play with. This card was from the supply store at my school of art, I know paying for a degree is a scam but I don't think they have any reason to go as far as pedalling fake cards bought from a dodgy supplier. Frankly I wasn't really impressed with the Leica specialist I bought from and I had a bad taste left in my mouth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwired Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share #19 Posted March 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Good To Be Retired said: This make me wonder if you are experiencing some sort of user error. The first time I got the error I had done everything by the books. I always properly eject everything. I treated the Leica card the same way I would the cards from my GRii or X-Pro 2 which behave perfectly fine. I tried just pulling the card as well as ejecting it to try to pin down what might be causing the error but it seemed truly intermittent and random. At the end of the day, the card was formatted, then formatted in the camera, went into the PC and was properly ejected and then the failed to write to the card and then gave me an error after reinserting it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted March 7, 2021 Share #20 Posted March 7, 2021 Good info: https://photographylife.com/fake-memory-cards https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12703/~/product-code-and-serial-numbers-location Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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