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If you are shooting with SL series or Sigma fp cameras, a macro M-L adapter is a versatile accessory with both the 50 and 35 CV Apo-Lanthar. I cannot see an optical performance hit with the 35, which will get down to approximately 25cm with a 5mm extension on the helicoid. The rotation of the adapter to get close is a very short throw - the two step action might actually be easier than the long rotation throw reported to get the Leica Apo-Summicron 35 down from 50 to 30cm. I mounted the Apo-Lant

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6 minutes ago, otto.f said:

I’m constantly thinking I’m in the wrong thread

Sorry i thought we were discussing about MFD... Dog poo was just an example :D. Just kidding, sorry again.

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11 hours ago, 250swb said:

But you are quoting lenses where focusing can be done based on the DOF scale, and CV lenses they aren't always what they seem, often the M mount lens was originally designed for another camera and simply adapted.

As regards the unsuitability of the OUFRO in post #155 it's an amusing thought that there may not be enough time to mount it, after all the photographer has to get their tripod set up as well, cable release screwed in, and then poof!, whatever it was has crawled away. I never thought the discipline of close up photography could be so frantic, or so habitually unplanned.

Petroglyphs and food don't normally crawl away, so no Poof! involved. When you're hiking through Chacoan Anasazi ruins or Ancestral Puebloan or Fremont culture petroglyphs, it can be windy and dusty.

And you may have a limited time the client allows you to shoot his food products. There's absolutely nothing unplanned about it, just a need to go both 27" to 36" and closer than 27" on the client's schedule.

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2 hours ago, lecycliste said:

Petroglyphs and food don't normally crawl away, so no Poof! involved. When you're hiking through Chacoan Anasazi ruins or Ancestral Puebloan or Fremont culture petroglyphs, it can be windy and dusty.

And you may have a limited time the client allows you to shoot his food products. There's absolutely nothing unplanned about it, just a need to go both 27" to 36" and closer than 27" on the client's schedule.

OK, I appreciate your clarification, from your original description I was imaging Indiana Jones sliding down a dusty hill and needing to stop and make a close focus photograph quickly before the bad guys caught up. So, an OUFRO is too slow......

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Hey, I had a question on my mind since yesterday, and I would love to ask you, folks, if you don't mind. I found my sweet spot with my M10, using mostly 35FL. So, I'm reading more about 35mm lenses rather than other FL. But I didn't find a clear answer to a personal doubt.


If you have to explain me the differences between the new CV 35/2 APO Lanthar and the ZM Distagon, without considering weight, size, and the extra stop, what would you say? It's just about character and look? Or is the IQ very different between them? Please delight me with your answers 🙂

 

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2 hours ago, vrsantoro said:

Is there a lens hood available for the Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 35mm f/2 Aspherical VM?

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You didn’t look very hard:

 

https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtlander-leica-lens-hoods-accessories/voigtlander-lh-13-lens-hood-for-m-35mm-or-m-50mm-apo-lanthar-sold-with-lens-only/

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15 minutes ago, vrsantoro said:

Thanks.  I did go to Camera Quest before posting my question and was unable to find anything on the hood.

Sometimes it takes some digging through all he has.

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I just finished my review of the Voigt 35 APO, with sample images: https://jacktaka.com/voigtlander-35mm-f2-apo

I really wish I still had my ZM 35 1.4 to compare image quality and size, but I sold that lens a long time ago...

Based on my memory, I'd say the ZM 35 1.4 is still slightly larger than the 35 APO, and the 35 APO is definitely sharper, but you'd have to pixel peep fairly hard to see this.

If I had to pick one, I'd go with the ZM 35 1.4 for the extra stop.

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On 3/29/2021 at 1:51 PM, Alan Friedman said:

If you are shooting with SL series or Sigma fp cameras, a macro M-L adapter is a versatile accessory with both the 50 and 35 CV Apo-Lanthar. I cannot see an optical performance hit with the 35, which will get down to approximately 25cm with a 5mm extension on the helicoid. The rotation of the adapter to get close is a very short throw - the two step action might actually be easier than the long rotation throw reported to get the Leica Apo-Summicron 35 down from 50 to 30cm. I mounted the Apo-Lanthar 35 for the first time yesterday and took a few hundred exposures around my workplace using f2, f2.8 and f 5.6, all of which have a circular diaphragm opening. (The photo of the lenses and macro-adapter is taken with the Sigma 24 f3.5 dg dn)

I use an ancient Leitz macro extender (about a centimeter) with live view and EVF on both my M10 Monochrom and M-E 240 for macro photography.  I've used the Leica 75mm f/2 APO Summicron, the Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 Distagon and a few others this way, but nothing prepared me for the optical quality, even wide-open at f/2, of the CV 50mm f/2 APO Lanthar on the extender.  I was so blown-away that I immediately ordered the 35mm f/2 APO Lanthar and wonder if I'll be putting my Distagon on the used market sometime soon.

 

 

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On 5/13/2021 at 12:15 AM, jacktaka said:

I just finished my review of the Voigt 35 APO, with sample images: https://jacktaka.com/voigtlander-35mm-f2-apo

I really wish I still had my ZM 35 1.4 to compare image quality and size, but I sold that lens a long time ago...

Based on my memory, I'd say the ZM 35 1.4 is still slightly larger than the 35 APO, and the 35 APO is definitely sharper, but you'd have to pixel peep fairly hard to see this.

If I had to pick one, I'd go with the ZM 35 1.4 for the extra stop.

The problem with the apo 35 is it falls into the "great lens but too big category" just as the distagon did.

Great review though as was your review of the 21mm f1.4 nokton which helped me to make my decision to buy from robert white some time ago,love that lens.

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I know there is the FE and VM version of the CV 35 Apo-Lanthar. So to use it with a Sony Alpha camera, it's obviously better than the FE version, right? 
But how does perform a VM version on the same Sony camera with M-adapter? I'm asking because I see my switching to mirrorless always closer, and I know M lenses work great too with an adapter. So I'm trying to see the big picture and have maybe valid combinations shortly.
I know 35 is my favorite FL. I know I prefer small lenses like Nokton classic or Biogon. But I know also I would love to have a 35 Apo for complex situations or just when I want the best IQ possible. I'm a pro, and I used already used the M system for some work. So a super 35 would be very welcome. I know on SL cameras, the M lenses are wow. But what about Sony, Panasonic, Nikon, Canon? No idea.
Between DSLR and M10, I'm still 100% OVF. I'm ready for a change.

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1 hour ago, Dennis said:

I know there is the FE and VM version of the CV 35 Apo-Lanthar. So to use it with a Sony Alpha camera, it's obviously better than the FE version, right? 
But how does perform a VM version on the same Sony camera with M-adapter? I'm asking because I see my switching to mirrorless always closer, and I know M lenses work great too with an adapter. So I'm trying to see the big picture and have maybe valid combinations shortly.
I know 35 is my favorite FL. I know I prefer small lenses like Nokton classic or Biogon. But I know also I would love to have a 35 Apo for complex situations or just when I want the best IQ possible. I'm a pro, and I used already used the M system for some work. So a super 35 would be very welcome. I know on SL cameras, the M lenses are wow. But what about Sony, Panasonic, Nikon, Canon? No idea.
Between DSLR and M10, I'm still 100% OVF. I'm ready for a change.

Fred Miranda has tested this and posted about it on his forum (Leica & Alternative Gear forum), and the results are always the same for M-mount wide angles – they don't look as good on the Sony as they do on M, especially in the corners. If you want the best IQ for a Sony body, get the E-mount version. If this were a character lens, then it might not matter as much – but for APO, the purpose of the lens is to produce the the highest possible IQ.

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The Sony version focuses down to 13.78”, and the Leica M-mount (VM) version focuses down to 19.7”. Those 6 inches can make a big difference in closeup rendering. Sony cameras’ sensor stacks are also thicker than sensors on Leica M and L-mount cameras, so Sony cameras do less well with obliquely-angled light rays at the sensor’s periphery. Those peripheral light rays tend to go between pixels or to adjacent pixels instead of where they should go. That translates into blurry corners on Sony. 

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Got it, thank you for the explanation. M lenses on an SL I heard are great. The CV 35 apo on SL2s for both photo and video I guess would be a killer combination 

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I use CV 35/1.2 II on SL and SL2. Faithful, unsmeared rendering to the corners on both cameras. I’d expect the 35/2 APO-Lanthar to be similar. 

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