leica5 Posted January 29, 2021 Share #41 Posted January 29, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Oh lala! It is fun to have a new lens. When can i get one? Sami🤪 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 Hi leica5, Take a look here Review: Leica Noctilux 50mm f1.2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
harmen Posted January 29, 2021 Share #42 Posted January 29, 2021 Marvelous photos. At some point Leica may come to bundle cows and chickens for a special limited edition. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maartenmoerman Posted January 29, 2021 Share #43 Posted January 29, 2021 6 hours ago, stephengv said: Wondering how will this compare with the Zeiss Sonnar C haha I'm more wondering how it compares to the canon 50/1.2 in LTM, anybody happens to have MTF charts of that one? Can't find them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted January 29, 2021 Share #44 Posted January 29, 2021 7 hours ago, insideline said: I watched on-line today via Leica's live launch presentation, the new lens appears to render almost opposite of my 1.2 with my original rendering best wide open with the magic being lost with every opening of the aperture. I will admit I am interested. Where did you find the online presentation. Missed that completely and doesn't seem to be on the Leica youtube or Vimeo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted January 29, 2021 Share #45 Posted January 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Overgaard said: Where did you find the online presentation. Missed that completely and doesn't seem to be on the Leica youtube or Vimeo. oh hi ! may I use the opportunity of seeing you here to briefly attract your attention over here?!!! 🙈 Sorry guys, go on now.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted January 29, 2021 Share #46 Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, maartenmoerman said: I'm more wondering how it compares to the canon 50/1.2 in LTM, anybody happens to have MTF charts of that one? Can't find them... No MTF charts on any Canon LTM lens but it is definitely a softer lens than this one, I think something like the "Japanese Summilux" Canon 50/1.4 LTM is a little more comparable in terms of wide-open sharpness. "b) The six elements Noctilux-M 52 mm f/1 Asph prototype, featuring 2 aspherical surfaces and designed by Helmut Marx and Paul Sindel in 1959, whose aim was to beat the optical performance of the non aspherical 7 elements in 5 groups and 11 diaphragm blades Canon 50 mm f/1.2, designed by Ito Hiroshi in April of 1956, a very good ultraluminous lens for the Japanese brand cameras sporting M39 mount, with a Planar design and whose selling price Canon had managed to reduce to half in 1957, streamlining production stages, in addition to having been extensively used by David Douglas Duncan in his essays on Pablo Picasso. Helmut Marx and Paul Sindel knew that though being a very good lens, the performance of the Canon 50 mm f/1.2 at widest aperture was poor in terms of resolving power, sharpness and contrast, because the Japanese firm had to sacrifice a certain degree of performance to be able to achieve such a huge maximum diaphragm, so Ito Hiroshi had decided to optimize the f/1.2 aperture to get beautiful portraits with soft and center emphasized images. Anyway, Helmut Max and Paul Sindel were not able to achieve the great image quality at widest aperture they wanted with the Noctilux-M 52 mm f/1 Asph prototype from 1959 (which didn´t go into series production either) and realized that the only way to achieve it was with a maximum aperture of f/1.2." Source: http://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2019/11/noctilux-m-50-mm-f12-asph-beginning-of.html Edited January 29, 2021 by padam 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted January 29, 2021 Share #47 Posted January 29, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd love to see a comparison between this lens and the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Aspherical. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maartenmoerman Posted January 29, 2021 Share #48 Posted January 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, padam said: No MTF charts on any Canon LTM lens ............ ....... .... Anyway, Helmut Max and Paul Sindel were not able to achieve the great image quality at widest aperture they wanted with the Noctilux-M 52 mm f/1 Asph prototype from 1959 (which didn´t go into series production either) and realized that the only way to achieve it was with a maximum aperture of f/1.2." Source: http://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2019/11/noctilux-m-50-mm-f12-asph-beginning-of.html Thanks! That helps in insight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Milan_S Posted January 29, 2021 Popular Post Share #49 Posted January 29, 2021 Great review Jono I was fortunate to be beta tester and Leica asked me to do the official release photos taken with the lens. Shot on the M10-R Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 40 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/317411-review-leica-noctilux-50mm-f12/?do=findComment&comment=4127941'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 29, 2021 Share #50 Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Milan_S said: Great review Jono I was fortunate to be beta tester and Leica asked me to do the official release photos taken with the lens. Shot on the M10-R Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! when's your review coming out? hehe & how's the rendering fidelity to the original f1.2? Would love to hear your thoughts! Edited January 29, 2021 by shirubadanieru 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennrocky Posted January 29, 2021 Share #51 Posted January 29, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Milan_S: Great review Jono I was fortunate to be beta tester and Leica asked me to do the official release photos taken with the lens. Shot on the M10-R Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You know the old and the new. What is the difference ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 29, 2021 Share #52 Posted January 29, 2021 I look at it this way. A retro-rival Leica lens that costs LESS than the current equivalent? That's got to be worth something. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 29, 2021 Share #53 Posted January 29, 2021 23 hours ago, jonoslack said: nothing is quite sharp, even in focus at the centre, by the edge of the frame it's very soft and there is quite a lot of vignetting There can't be many positive lens reviews that have this line😁! 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share #54 Posted January 29, 2021 22 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Thanks, Jono - very informative, as always, especially through your images. How did you find handling on the SL compared to the M: did you develop a preference? HI There I really like the handling on both, I shot it mostly on the M though (but that's more because that's what I do with M lenses). My only criticism is that I prefer a shorter focus throw. All the best Jono 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share #55 Posted January 29, 2021 21 hours ago, steamboat said: I’d buy this in a New York minute if the minimum focus is 0.7M. I assume minimum is 1-metre? Sorry if I missed that in your report Jono. Hi there My feelings exactly - I think I did say, but yes, it certainly is 1m - there is some consolation using with the SL2 or M10-r in that you can crop that much without losing that much (except the squashy corners!), which isn't a bad thing Best Jono Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share #56 Posted January 29, 2021 21 hours ago, darylgo said: Thanks Jono for the great images and review. Can you compare it to the f1? I don't see chromatic aberrations on the window picture, was it evident in other images? Hi There - thank you I'm sorry I can't compare it to the f1 - I did have one about 7 or 8 years ago, but I sold it! I have to say I haven't had much of a problem with CA - there is some fringing, but nothing too dramatic and easy to fix. I wonder if the original is that good - I guess it may be modern glass sorting it out. Best Jono Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share #57 Posted January 29, 2021 21 hours ago, UliWer said: This is a very interesting and (for me) new information. Do you have any source for it? I am not asking because I have any doubts, just to hear more about the prototype. (Perhaps the rumor that there will be also a new version of the Summaron might be read in a different light then...). Hi There It came from a presentation that Dr. Wofgang Vollrath during the LHSA meeting at Wetzlar in 2018 (and which I shamefully missed, even though I was there!). It comes from the Leica Barnack Blog and a great article by José Manuel Serrano Esparza you can find it here: http://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2019/11/noctilux-m-50-mm-f12-asph-beginning-of.html Well worth a read. best Jono 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 29, 2021 Share #58 Posted January 29, 2021 vor 19 Stunden schrieb wlaidlaw: ... which given it is a late 1980's design before digital cameras were a pixel in Leica's eye, is no surprise. You can definitely see softness in the corners at bigger apertures. And all of that will be even worse with the "new" Noctilux 1.2/50mm, as its optical design closely resembles the old one. Qualitywise, you will definitely see no improvement over your vIII Summilux. Rather the opposite, I would assume. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share #59 Posted January 29, 2021 18 hours ago, farnz said: Dammit, Jono, @jonoslack your interesting and to-the-point review and exquisite pictures have got me salivating again! (I'm sure I must be able to spare a kidney.) I love my f/1.0 Noctilux but the f/1.2 looks to be very close. Did you happen to notice a similarity with the f/1.0's pastel colour palette in your pictures with the f/1.2? Pete. HI Pete - lovely to hear from you. I haven't had an f1 for about 6 or 7 years, so I'm really unsure - It's much nicer than I remember the F1 (but I was always irritated by the plastic lens hood - silly things can be a big influence!). Buy one! 😂 All the best (and from Emma as well) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole73 Posted January 29, 2021 Share #60 Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks Jono, your review is very informative (as always)! Could you describe (in small words) how the new Noctilux 1,2 compares to the Summilux II pre-asph. version? Thank you! Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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