jc_braconi Posted January 12, 2021 Share #21 Posted January 12, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks like they all seat on IIIg Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316892-rigid-summicron-50-ltm-any-in-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4116781'>More sharing options...
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frame-it Posted January 12, 2021 Share #22 Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Matlock said: Yes it is always wanted that Japanese version..very difficult to find 👹 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted January 12, 2021 Share #23 Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, frame-it said: always wanted that Japanese version..very difficult to find 👹 Like the one on this list? http://www.peterloy.com/stock-list.php I have been looking at it since it was mentioned in another posting on the forum, but I really must not buy it ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 13, 2021 Share #24 Posted January 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Pyrogallol said: Like the one on this list? http://www.peterloy.com/stock-list.php I have been looking at it since it was mentioned in another posting on the forum, but I really must not buy it ! is that the same as this one ? i was always looking for this one..ive seen it in japan at a highly inflated price of $10,000+ https://www.meister-camera.com/en/second-hand/9579/leica-summilux-m39-1450mm-japan-edition Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 13, 2021 Share #25 Posted January 13, 2021 6 hours ago, frame-it said: is that the same as this one ? i was always looking for this one..ive seen it in japan at a highly inflated price of $10,000+ https://www.meister-camera.com/en/second-hand/9579/leica-summilux-m39-1450mm-japan-edition No, the one on Peter Loy's list is a Summicron (as is mine) the one on this list is a Summilux and is the first time I have seen a picture of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 13, 2021 Share #26 Posted January 13, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Matlock: No, the one on Peter Loy's list is a Summicron (as is mine) the one on this list is a Summilux and is the first time I have seen a picture of it. The picture below shows the entire M39 series produced by Leica for the Japanese market. The Summicron 50mm is attached to my IIIg (just so that yours does not feel too lonely), whereas the Summilux 50mm is attached to my Voigtländer Bessa R. The Summicron 35asph sits in the middle. Those lenses were originally intended for the Japanese market only, but rumor has it that the Japanese importer overestimated demand and ordered too many, which then could not be sold in Japan, which is why those lenses were subsequently offered through other channels as well. Interestingly, when I bought my lenses, they were considerably cheaper than their regular M-series counterparts (and came with an original Leica LTM to M adapter, too). Looking at today's prices, that seems to have changed quite a bit. In my personal view, the Summilux is almost too big for the IIIg, but makes an ideal companion for the Bessa R (which btw is a wonderful evolution of the IIIg, with its M-type rangefinder and TTL metering). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316892-rigid-summicron-50-ltm-any-in-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4117324'>More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 13, 2021 Share #27 Posted January 13, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, wizard said: The picture below shows the entire M39 series produced by Leica for the Japanese market. The Summicron 50mm is attached to my IIIg (just so that yours does not feel too lonely), whereas the Summilux 50mm is attached to my Voigtländer Bessa R. The Summicron 35asph sits in the middle. Those lenses were originally intended for the Japanese market only, but rumor has it that the Japanese importer overestimated demand and ordered too many, which then could not be sold in Japan, which is why those lenses were subsequently offered through other channels as well. Interestingly, when I bought my lenses, they were considerably cheaper than their regular M-series counterparts (and came with an original Leica LTM to M adapter, too). Looking at today's prices, that seems to have changed quite a bit. In my personal view, the Summilux is almost too big for the IIIg, but makes an ideal companion for the Bessa R (which btw is a wonderful evolution of the IIIg, with its M-type rangefinder and TTL metering). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for that. I see what you mean about the Summilux. My two Summicrons were a lot cheaper than seems to be the going price now. Both appeared to be unused when I bought them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted January 13, 2021 Share #28 Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wizard said: In my personal view, the Summilux is almost too big for the IIIg, but makes an ideal companion for the Bessa R (which btw is a wonderful evolution of the IIIg, with its M-type rangefinder and TTL metering). Just as a curios, does anyway the Summilux fit fine onto a IIIG ? It has a larger diameter than the old Summilux LTM - see JC Picture - and the IIIG has the RF/VF unit slightly protruding over the front surface... ( I suppose it fits... should have been an incredible mis-design for a "special series" to not take in account the IIIG...) Edited January 13, 2021 by luigi bertolotti 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 13, 2021 Share #29 Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Matlock said: No, the one on Peter Loy's list is a Summicron (as is mine) the one on this list is a Summilux and is the first time I have seen a picture of it. yes its the summilux ltm japan edition that im craving 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 13, 2021 Share #30 Posted January 13, 2021 vor 48 Minuten schrieb luigi bertolotti: Just as a curios, does anyway the Summilux fit fine onto a IIIG ? Luigi, Yes, the Summilux may be attached to the IIIg (and any other Leica LTM model) without problems. I have used it on my IIIg, and the results were very good indeed. However, as I said, it is a relatively big and heavy lens (all brass, just like the older chrome version M-mount Leica lenses) and in my view the combination with a Barnack Leica is therefore not ideal. It is perfectly balanced and feels right at home on the Bessa R though. Of course, it may also be used on any M mount camera with an adapter. Andy 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted January 13, 2021 Share #31 Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 12:48 PM, romualdo said: now we have triplets That's it, romualdo! we have now passed the quadruped... sorry : the "quadriplet". N.B.: for the collectors who would not have understood our "pecole-romualdo" dialog, it concerns only the Leica IIIg/Summicron 50 specialists. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted January 16, 2021 Share #32 Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 6:34 PM, Pyrogallol said: Like the one on this list? http://www.peterloy.com/stock-list.php I have been looking at it since it was mentioned in another posting on the forum, but I really must not buy it ! But I did. Traded in six other lenses to get it. It arrived this morning, in the snow. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316892-rigid-summicron-50-ltm-any-in-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4119130'>More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted January 19, 2021 Share #33 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) On 1/13/2021 at 10:00 AM, luigi bertolotti said: Just as a curios, does anyway the Summilux fit fine onto a IIIG ? It has a larger diameter than the old Summilux LTM - see JC Picture - and the IIIG has the RF/VF unit slightly protruding over the front surface... ( I suppose it fits... should have been an incredible mis-design for a "special series" to not take in account the IIIG...) Just to follow up on Andreas' comment, all of the lenses fit readily on the 111g and the Barnack cameras; I agree that the Summilux is a little too heavy for that style of camera but does fit readily on any of the film or digital M cameras. The 35 sits most comfortably on the Barnack range being that little bit smaller and lighter and is also very much at home on the M3, using an adapter. I have used the more expensive Millich adapters but the Leica ones seem to focus more accurately. The pictures below show the Summilux and the 35 Summicron on a 111f Red Dial. The blurred background of the second image includes the 35 on the 111g Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 19, 2021 by robert_parker 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316892-rigid-summicron-50-ltm-any-in-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4121556'>More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 20, 2021 Share #34 Posted January 20, 2021 An unlikely combination. My Leica IIId and Summilux. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316892-rigid-summicron-50-ltm-any-in-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4121845'>More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 20, 2021 Share #35 Posted January 20, 2021 vor 21 Minuten schrieb Matlock: My Leica IIId and Summilux. Ha, on January 13th you said you had seen a picture of the LTM Summilux for the first time, and now there is one on your IIId?? And here am I, thinking the corona virus is highly infectious. Obviously, GAS beats that by a mile (as it does not even need personal contact 🙂). Enjoy your new lens! Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 20, 2021 Share #36 Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, wizard said: Ha, on January 13th you said you had seen a picture of the LTM Summilux for the first time, and now there is one on your IIId?? And here am I, thinking the corona virus is highly infectious. Obviously, GAS beats that by a mile (as it does not even need personal contact 🙂). Enjoy your new lens! Andy Very true Andy. Just after I posted, I saw one for sale so took the plunge. I tend to believe you when you say GAS beats corona and it is made worse by being confined to barracks with too much time to search the internet for "bargains?". GAS is not so deadly as Covid-19 but does far more damage to your bank balance. Mind you the Summilux was a bargain compared to the IIId. 🙂 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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