hirohhhh Posted December 15, 2020 Share #1 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I have Leica SL2 and Fuji X100F that I both use almost on a daily basis, and I love both cameras. I use Fuji whenever I don't feel carrying a significantly larger SL2. And I generally care less about scratching or damaging my much less expensive Fuji. I wanted to upgrade it to X100V, but now I'm thinking even switching to another Leica, because I noticed there's a difference between my SL2 and Fuji photos, the colors are different, the feel is different and I can easily tell which is which. Both are great, but I want more consistency in my work, so I was thinking I should be maybe 100% Leica. What do you think are the best alternatives to X100F/V, mainly in terms of portability. I like Q2, but it's significantly larger than Fuji. I also love M10, but it's significantly more expensive. Maybe CL, TL? I don't mind paying a bit more than Fuji, but I don't want to pay 5x more, because I have SL2 when I want absolutely the stunning Leica quality and experience. Oh, and also, it might be worth mentioning, I already own 4 SL lenses, but I don't mind having just a fixed lens like I have on my Fuji. After all, what I want from this camera the most is the portability. So, 1) portability, 2) image quality (considering all Leicas has great IQ), 3) price. Let's say these are the priorities, in this order. Edited December 15, 2020 by hirohhhh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wda Posted December 15, 2020 Share #2 Posted December 15, 2020 Look at D-Lux, both current and recent models. All are excellent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted December 15, 2020 Share #3 Posted December 15, 2020 CL and 23mm Summicron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted December 15, 2020 Share #4 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) The latest Leica X no doubt. I'm not sure which is the latest one, typ 113? I understand these can be had for way under a grand used so they're "safe to scratch" in this sense. Optional EVF with Visoflex 020. Edited December 15, 2020 by mike3996 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 15, 2020 Share #5 Posted December 15, 2020 I have a CL, SL2 (shortly to swap for SL2-S) and Sigma fp. Whenever I want a camera to carry, it is the CL: if with just one lens, then it's the 35TL, if two then 11-23TL and 60TL. My go everywhere camera is actually my phone, but my CL is what most people would call a go-everywhere camera: holidays, travel, family and social. The SL (now SL2, soon the SL2-S) is my camera for when I play at being a pro: portrait sessions, events, stage, music. I am doing an increasing amount of video, and that is what the Sigma is for (with Leica SL lenses). The rationale for the SL2-S is that it can support the Sigma fp for video as well. They both have major advantages over the other: the Sigma records direct via USB-C to a Samsung T5 SSD, which makes a very small static video package. The SL2-S has an EVF. As you can guess, in your shoes I'd go for the CL. To my mind it is the modern equivalent of the Leica Barnack. No Leica M is really that small and light compared to other highly portable cameras (i.e. popular point and shoots) but the CL comes close. The similar interfaces helps with usability, and I will sometimes put the Summicron-SL 90 on the CL for a bit more reach. The big zooms, OTOH, feel ridiculous on the CL, especially the 90-280SL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasB Posted December 15, 2020 Share #6 Posted December 15, 2020 X2 or X113 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 2, 2021 Share #7 Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Q2. I am getting ready to sell my X100F. I haven't used it since I got my Q2. The Q2 is not too big or heavy for everyday carry IMHO. But if it is for you the CL and 23mm Summicron would be a good alternative, as @oldwino observed above. Edited January 2, 2021 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 2, 2021 Share #8 Posted January 2, 2021 but https://leicarumors.com/2020/12/27/first-leica-cl2-camera-rumors.aspx/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted January 2, 2021 Share #9 Posted January 2, 2021 3 hours ago, frame-it said: but https://leicarumors.com/2020/12/27/first-leica-cl2-camera-rumors.aspx/ But.... nearly 3x the price of the X100V, and without the added cost of the 23mm Summicron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 2, 2021 Share #10 Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, gbealnz said: But.... nearly 3x the price of the X100V, and without the added cost of the 23mm Summicron. very true...but the OP says he doesnt wanna Fuji anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knipsknecht Posted January 2, 2021 Share #11 Posted January 2, 2021 Concerning portability there is no real alternative to the X100 series. Yes, there are smaller Leica cameras like the CL, but it has an APS-C sensor, just like the Fuji. You could “upgrade” to a Q or Q2, which would maybe solve your consistency problem - but then again, both Q’s are fat beasts compared to the X100 series. I am using a X100F myself besides some digital and analog Leica M models. Every time I want to go light I reach for the X100F. I can put it in a bigger pocket of a coat and don’t need anything else. Personally I don’t have any problems concerning consistency. Actually I really like the Fuji film simulations. But, of course, this is based on individual taste😉. The new X100V is better than the F-version in many ways - especially the brand new lens is worth more than a quick look. So my recommendation would be to have a closer look at the V ... or forego portability and go for the much more expensive Q2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 20, 2021 Share #12 Posted February 20, 2021 On 1/2/2021 at 3:25 AM, gbealnz said: But.... nearly 3x the price of the X100V, and without the added cost of the 23mm Summicron. But the Q2 comes with the 28mm f/1.7 Summilux for the price. That is a very compelling feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirohhhh Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted February 20, 2021 Q2 is so beautiful, I think I'll be inspired as I am with SL2, but I'm afraid if I spend $5K on Q2, I'd rarely pull my SL2 out of the drawer. I have 35mm cron attached almost all the time on SL2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 21, 2021 Share #14 Posted February 21, 2021 On 12/15/2020 at 3:48 PM, wda said: Look at D-Lux, both current and recent models. All are excellent. +1. My D-Lux 7 is the one I pick-up when going walkabout without a specific project in mind. Versatile, goes in a pocket, lightweight, produces excellent results (IMHO, of course!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted February 21, 2021 Share #15 Posted February 21, 2021 On 12/15/2020 at 2:47 PM, hirohhhh said: What do you think are the best alternatives to X100F/V, mainly in terms of portability. So, 1) portability, 2) image quality (considering all Leicas has great IQ), 3) price. Let's say these are the priorities, in this order. None. The X100F/V are good cameras. Keep yours and put the money towards another lens for your SL2. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirohhhh Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share #16 Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ouroboros said: None. The X100F/V are good cameras. Keep yours and put the money towards another lens for your SL2. Have them enough already Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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