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SL2S + Leitz Telyt-R 250mm

 

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I’m trying out numismatic photography with my SL2-S and a Sigma 70mm MACRO lens. This is the obverse. I’ll post the reverse on the next comment. Any comments? Criticism? 

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This is the reverse of the coin I just posted:

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Doug Trabaris said:

This is the reverse of the coin I just posted:

 

 

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the detail is excellent, especially on the reverse

 

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11 hours ago, Doug Trabaris said:

Any comments? Criticism? 

I like antique stuff. So I googled your coin. A marvellous piece of history! As it depicts Alexander The Great but was printed approximately 200 years after his death, I learned that worshipping the past heroes was the natural thing to do back then when there was no imperator yet.

The picture below shows the exact coin (at least to my layman's eye). However, it looks different in brightness and contrast. The coin's image shows more weight, and the details are better to digest, in my very humble opinion. Why is that? 

Of course, I'm guessing here, but I think you were aiming for a plain white background which leads to some overexposure. You tried to light as softly as possible, casting ideally no shadows on the background. Soft light, however, makes look things, well, soft and compromises liveliness considerably. That's why food images look most delicious when shot under controlled sunlight, which isn't soft at all. Or, from a cinematographer's perspective, your coin was shot only with fill light; there's no keylight.

The remedy is to lose the idea to get both right, background and coin. I'd shoot the coin outdoor under a soft sun sometime in the later afternoon and then have the background added in photoshop. 

Hope that's not too much rain on the parade. But since you've asked ... ;) 

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5 hours ago, hansvons said:

I like antique stuff. So I googled your coin. A marvellous piece of history! As it depicts Alexander The Great but was printed approximately 200 years after his death, I learned that worshipping the past heroes was the natural thing to do back then when there was no imperator yet.

The picture below shows the exact coin (at least to my layman's eye). However, it looks different in brightness and contrast. The coin's image shows more weight, and the details are better to digest, in my very humble opinion. Why is that? 

Of course, I'm guessing here, but I think you were aiming for a plain white background which leads to some overexposure. You tried to light as softly as possible, casting ideally no shadows on the background. Soft light, however, makes look things, well, soft and compromises liveliness considerably. That's why food images look most delicious when shot under controlled sunlight, which isn't soft at all. Or, from a cinematographer's perspective, your coin was shot only with fill light; there's no keylight.

The remedy is to lose the idea to get both right, background and coin. I'd shoot the coin outdoor under a soft sun sometime in the later afternoon and then have the background added in photoshop. 

Hope that's not too much rain on the parade. But since you've asked ... ;) 

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I truly appreciate your thoughtful reply. One possible solution (beyond in natural light, which isn’t always available) is to shoot the coin with a gray or black background. The color of the coin is a challenge. My photos are accurate on the color. The coin is unusually bright and new looking, which could indicate cleaning when it was first dug up. The contrast of your photo is quite good, though, and the gray setting is perhaps helpful to increase the bringing out of details. I am taking photos later today of a coin that is a darker gray color and will see if it turns out like what you posted. 
 

Thanks again!

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7 minutes ago, Doug Trabaris said:

I truly appreciate your thoughtful reply. One possible solution (beyond in natural light, which isn’t always available) is to shoot the coin with a gray or black background. The color of the coin is a challenge. My photos are accurate on the color. The coin is unusually bright and new looking, which could indicate cleaning when it was first dug up.

The photo I brought up is someone's work I found on the internet. On the contrary to yours, it hasn't seen silver polish for decades, perhaps even aeons. What is right, I don't know, it very much depends on taste. However, photographing polished metal is a challenge. Shine/lustre in paint and metal is determined by the contrast of the reflections mirroring the environment. Thus, the environment's shape, light and mood are crucial. 

If a clean look is on the table, one must create a clean environment reflected in the polished metal surface. Often styrofoam is used for that. But without black shapes, the reflections will look frosted. That's what I believe to see in your images. 

For a car packshot that shows the car's design and paints in all its glory, one would typically choose a spectacular landscape showing a spectacular sky that is reflected spectacularly in the car's paint. If you put that car in a studio with a white topsail and white bounce around it, you would get a clean, frosty look that we today find clinical and outdated. Today, we like hot spots, even raindrops, because we believe authenticity is key to appreciation. 

Thanks for being open to discussing such things!

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Just before totality.

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Leica SL2-S + Astro-Physics 92mm f5 Stowaway refractor. 

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1 hour ago, Pintpot said:

Lovely Alan, it was overcast here, and a little early in the morning for me.

Thank you Tony. Here too the eclipse began in haze and didn't really clear (the moon was barely visible to the naked eye)... but once totality was finished and equipment stowed away, the sky cleared to glass.

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