astrostl Posted January 8, 2021 Share #61  Posted January 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 hours ago, Paolou Pigini said: Has anyone tried the TT 50 f/1.4 more thoroughly? Does it arrive in good condition or is there a risk of having it new already with the dust inside like other cheap lenses? More thoroughly than what? It's been extensively reviewed by several sources. Mine arrived in excellent condition, and I haven't heard otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paolou Pigini Posted January 9, 2021 Share #62  Posted January 9, 2021 16 hours ago, astrostl said: More thoroughly than what? It's been extensively reviewed by several sources. Mine arrived in excellent condition, and I haven't heard otherwise. than has been done so far...having been announced just a few months ago. I've read Bastiank's and Bosi's reviews, useful, but I would like to read some more impressions from those who bought the lens, possibly not only with M-cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted January 9, 2021 Share #63  Posted January 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Paolou Pigini said: than has been done so far...having been announced just a few months ago. I've read Bastiank's and Bosi's reviews, useful, but I would like to read some more impressions from those who bought the lens, possibly not only with M-cameras. If you have a Facebook account there are quite a few groups out there with user reports: - 7artisans & TTartisan lenses, User's Group - TTArtisan - Chinese Manual Focus Lenses in addition to tons of Leica/M groups which often have mentions of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 9, 2021 Share #64  Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 7:56 PM, astrostl said: 35mm f/1.4  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 9, 2021 by jdlaing 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314854-chinese-lenses-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4115075'>More sharing options...
Paolou Pigini Posted January 9, 2021 Share #65  Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, astrostl said: If you have a Facebook account there are quite a few groups out there with user reports: - 7artisans & TTartisan lenses, User's Group - TTArtisan - Chinese Manual Focus Lenses in addition to tons of Leica/M groups which often have mentions of them. Unfortunately, I stopped using fb many years ago. Good to know anyway, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted January 10, 2021 Share #66 Â Posted January 10, 2021 My opinion is that having a Leica M or SL and using Chinese lenses (patent trade mark ripoffs) defeats the purpose of shooting Leica. If it's a cost thing, then you should consider a different, but also excellent, brand like Fuji-X. This is what I shot before fulfilling a lifelong desire to own a Leica M. Fuji-X is the brand that still recommend to friends and family looking to upgrade their gear. For me, if a bought a non-Leica lens to use on my M10, it would bug me that I really wanted a Leica lens. I would eventually buy the Leica lens and in the end, spend more money than just buying the Leica lens in the first place. Buy used if you can't afford new. There are a lot of good Leica glass out there in the used marketplace. For me, buy once, cry once applies to my philosophy for my Leica system. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Prime Posted January 10, 2021 Share #67  Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I wouldn’t tarnish all brands with the same brush, as I have found Voigtlander to be good and I don’t think they have been infringing. But otherwise I would agree, there’s a certain pleasure in using the real mcoy Edited January 10, 2021 by Mr.Prime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted January 10, 2021 Share #68  Posted January 10, 2021 Gerade eben schrieb Mr.Prime: I wouldn’t tarnish all brands with the same brush, as I have found Voigtlander to be good and I don’t think they have been infringing. Same applies for the Zeiss ZM lenses for the M Leicas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted January 10, 2021 Share #69 Â Posted January 10, 2021 It is the physical makeup of a lens, not the logo or its price, that determines its performance and characteristics. Everything else is feels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted January 10, 2021 Share #70  Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, budjames said: My opinion is that having a Leica M or SL and using Chinese lenses (patent trade mark ripoffs) defeats the purpose of shooting Leica And the purpose of shooting with Leica is ... ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 10, 2021 Share #71 Â Posted January 10, 2021 4 hours ago, budjames said: My opinion is that having a Leica M or SL and using Chinese lenses defeats the purpose of shooting Leica... I shoot M with some Chinese lenses because they have been designed with their own unique character which renders differently to the similar Leitz offerings. But each to their own. Philip. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted January 10, 2021 Share #72  Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dennis said: And the purpose of shooting with Leica is ... ? Because I can. Photography is a hobby and I always want to shoot a Leica. Since I have them, I'm hooked on the IQ and simple operation of the cameras. I don't shoot sports or moving objects, so high frame rates and super-fast autofocus in not something I need or will use. My Leica M10, now M10-R with a Summilux 35 ASPH FLE and APO Summicron 50 make for a very compact and capable kit for my needs, travel and street. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto Edited January 10, 2021 by budjames 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted January 10, 2021 Share #73 Â Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, pippy said: I shoot M with some Chinese lenses because they have been designed with their own unique character which renders differently to the similar Leitz offerings. But each to their own. Philip. That's cool. Choices are great for consumers. Having fun creating photos is the point regardless of gear preferences. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted January 10, 2021 Share #74  Posted January 10, 2021 (edited)  7 minutes ago, budjames said: My Leica M10, now M10-R with a Summilux 35 ASPH FLE and APO Summicron 50 make for a very compact and capable kit for my needs.  The same here, w/ the same words you used: My Leica M10 with my Zeiss 35 Biogon, TT Charlatan and 50 Summicron make for a very compact and capable kit for my needs. Edited January 10, 2021 by Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 10, 2021 Share #75 Â Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, budjames said: That's cool. Choices are great for consumers. Having fun creating photos is the point regardless of gear preferences. I couldn't agree more. Please continue to have as much fun as you can, Bud! Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted January 10, 2021 Share #76  Posted January 10, 2021 Back on topic.. photos SL2 + TT Artisan 50/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://www.flickr.com/photos/xx573v3xx/50821981808  4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://www.flickr.com/photos/xx573v3xx/50821981808  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314854-chinese-lenses-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4115960'>More sharing options...
garysamson Posted January 10, 2021 Share #77  Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, steveBK said: Back on topic.. photos SL2 + TT Artisan 50/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://www.flickr.com/photos/xx573v3xx/50821981808  I think this is pretty impressive especially for a less than $400 lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted January 11, 2021 Share #78  Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, garysamson said: I think this is pretty impressive especially for a less than $400 lens. Thanks!  From the reviews it looked to be about 90% of a Leica 50lux ASPH (which I’ve owned a few times) for 10% of the price so.. figured why not. Alternately was considering the Voigtlander 50/1.2 (had the 40/1.2 which is excellent) which is probably 5-10% better at 2~3x the price. So I still don’t understand the relationship between TT Artisan & 7 Artisans, but my experience across a handful of lenses is that TT Artisan seems to be more modern/technically focused whereas 7 Artisans seems more somewhat novelty/vintage/“look” lenses 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 11, 2021 Share #79  Posted January 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, steveBK said: Thanks!  From the reviews it looked to be about 90% of a Leica 50lux ASPH (which I’ve owned a few times) for 10% of the price so.. figured why not. Alternately was considering the Voigtlander 50/1.2 (had the 40/1.2 which is excellent) which is probably 5-10% better at 2~3x the price. So I still don’t understand the relationship between TT Artisan & 7 Artisans, but my experience across a handful of lenses is that TT Artisan seems to be more modern/technically focused whereas 7 Artisans seems more somewhat novelty/vintage/“look” lenses There’s no relationship. Two different companies and different designs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted January 11, 2021 Share #80  Posted January 11, 2021 4 hours ago, steveBK said: Back on topic.. photos SL2 + TT Artisan 50/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://www.flickr.com/photos/xx573v3xx/50821981808  Very sweet and delicious background blurring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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