Steven Posted October 24, 2020 Share #81 Posted October 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, frame-it said: there is an SL2-S, a Q2 mono probably with the M10M sensor, and a special edition Q2 "007 Bond" version I heard about the 007 version too. Any idea how it will look ? I’m imagining it navy blue, stealth, and extremely cool. when shall we expect these three announcements ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NigelG Posted October 24, 2020 Share #82 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven said: I heard about the 007 version too. Any idea how it will look ? I’m imagining it navy blue, stealth, and extremely cool. when shall we expect these three announcements ? Sorry to disappoint you but it’s regular black just with British Racing Green leather, a rather naff “gun barrel” logo lens cap and a little green Globetrotter case... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 24, 2020 Share #83 Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, NigelG said: Sorry to disappoint you but it’s regular black just with British Racing Green leather, a rather naff “gun barrel” logo lens cap and a little green Globetrotter case... Sounds nice. How do you know? Do you have any photo leak to share ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted October 24, 2020 Share #84 Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steven said: Sounds nice. How do you know? Do you have any photo leak to share ? https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/james-bond-themed-leica-q2-in-october Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 24, 2020 Share #85 Posted October 24, 2020 the Q2 Monochrome Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314370-sl2-s/?do=findComment&comment=4067632'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 24, 2020 Share #86 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 22 Stunden schrieb nicci78: I don’t think so. Leica did not have the budget to build hundreds of different body. Same SL2 name suggest that the body is identical. But the inside will be different. Just like the whole M10 series : same body. Different internal with some minor cosmetic changes. Leica has no choice than to come up with a smaller, more compact FF L-mount body, IMO. Every manufacturer has one and the S5 with the Summicron-SL lenses just feels lighter to carry. The S5 is smaller than the Z6/7, just a bit thicker and 39 g heavier. It will be tough to compete if they put the innards of the S5 in the SL2 body, I think. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #87 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) We asked for it since 2015 with the Q. Make it interchangeable and it will fly off the shelves. Instead we got SL. We also got CL. Some were still saying make the CL with full frame sensor. It will sell like hot cakes. Did Leica listen for a smaller SL ? Nope. We got the heavier SL2 ! We want small AF lenses. Humongous SL zooms, we got. Then APO-Summicron-SL is ok, but not small nor light by any means I now think that Leica does not want to make us happy nor winning easy cash. Edited October 24, 2020 by nicci78 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted October 24, 2020 Share #88 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Leica has no choice than to come up with a smaller, more compact FF L-mount body, IMO. Every manufacturer has one and the S5 with the Summicron-SL lenses just feels lighter to carry. The S5 is smaller than the Z6/7, just a bit thicker and 39 g heavier. It will be tough to compete if they put the innards of the S5 in the SL2 body, I think. Well of course they have a choice and I'm not sure I see them coming up with one anytime soon. While I agree about the size and feel of the S5, with the SL Summicron, the fact remains most of the FF AF lenses are all of a size that almost negates the smaller body advantage, and in fact most feel better balanced on the SL2 or S1/R bodies. Edited October 24, 2020 by Boojay 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 24, 2020 Share #89 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 8 Minuten schrieb Boojay: Well of course they have a choice and I'm not sure I see them coming up with one anytime soon. While I agree about the size and feel of the S5, with the SL Summicron, the fact remains most of the FF AF lenses are all of a size that almost negates the smaller body advantage, and in fact most feel better balanced on the SL2 or S1/R bodies. The ‘no choice’ is complemented by the ‘tough to compete’ in the last sentence. What if Panasonic puts that 47 MPx sensor next in an S5 body? How many SL2 users would prefer the more compact camera then? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 24, 2020 Share #90 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 3 Stunden schrieb nicci78: ... We want small AF lenses. Humongous SL zooms, we got. Then APO-Summicron-SL is ok, but not small nor light by any means I now think that Leica does not want to make us happy nor winning easy cash. The 75 and the 90 Summicron SL lenses are compact for these focal lengths and their optical performance, IMO. Even the 35 Summicron-SL compares favorably in terms of size with the Nikon NIKKOR Z 35/1.8 S. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 24, 2020 Share #91 Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chaemono said: The 75 and the 90 Summicron SL lenses are compact for these focal lengths and their optical performance, IMO. Even the 35 Summicron-SL compares favorably in terms of size with the Nikon NIKKOR Z 35/1.8 S. The 35 sl is a tank compared to the Sony 35 1.8 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 24, 2020 Share #92 Posted October 24, 2020 vor 10 Minuten schrieb Steven: The 35 sl is a tank compared to the Sony 35 1.8 Sony lenses usually suck except stopped down is my experience. I bet that one does so hard. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/314370-sl2-s/?do=findComment&comment=4067748'>More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 24, 2020 Share #93 Posted October 24, 2020 5 hours ago, NigelG said: https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/james-bond-themed-leica-q2-in-october Thanks! Gorgeous, but I prefer my Black Q2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share #94 Posted October 26, 2020 What if SL2-S really means speed. And for that it will use 24MP sensor with phase detect pixels ? Just to provide us awesome hybride phase-contrast detect AF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Posted October 26, 2020 Share #95 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, nicci78 said: What if SL2-S really means speed. And for that it will use 24MP sensor with phase detect pixels ? Just to provide us awesome hybride phase-contrast detect AF That would imply that the normal SL2 is slow, a marketing own goal to use a sport term. Edited October 26, 2020 by Joakim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 26, 2020 Share #96 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, nicci78 said: What if SL2-S really means speed. And for that it will use 24MP sensor with phase detect pixels ? Just to provide us awesome hybride phase-contrast detect AF In that example, rather that speed, I would call it sensitivity. In any case, if that’s true, Leica can take my money now. Any idea when that sl2s might be announced ? I’m itching to buy an sl2 but now I also want to wait and see the sl2s Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuhau Posted October 26, 2020 Share #97 Posted October 26, 2020 It has been a long time since CL or TL2 were released and with the recent 3 new APS-C L mount lens from Sigma, SL2-S well may be a scaled down APS-C version of SL2 with IBIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 26, 2020 Share #98 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Steven said: In that example, rather that speed, I would call it sensitivity. In any case, if that’s true, Leica can take my money now. Any idea when that sl2s might be announced ? I’m itching to buy an sl2 but now I also want to wait and see the sl2s I dont have a crystal ball but I wouldn't count on this. Leica specifically says no to phase detect because of IQ loss issues, apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share #99 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Leica needs hybrid phase+contrast AF right now. Otherwise Leica R demise will repeat again. At the time only MF lenses, combined with the rise of digital killed the system. Now no phase detect will too. Look at close to zero sales of Lumix S in Japan : At this rate Panasonic will left the camera business soon. Killing the L-mount alliance in the process. Edited October 26, 2020 by nicci78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted October 26, 2020 Share #100 Posted October 26, 2020 vor 15 Minuten schrieb nicci78: Leica needs hybrid phase+contrast AF right now. Otherwise Leica R demise will repeat again. At the time only MF lenses, combined with the rise of digital killed the system. Now no phase detect will too. Look at close to zero sales of Lumix S in Japan : At this rate Panasonic will left the camera business soon. Killing the L-mount alliance in the process. Many people rant about the AF. Still no proof that this a real life problem, except for vloggers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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