pocholin Posted September 11, 2020 Share #21 Posted September 11, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 11 hours ago, wda said: Both subjects can look adorable when engaged with an object (food or a toy), or when asleep. Just seize the moments. true...but my 9 y/o daughter has so much energy, she puts me to sleep...perhaps she can take pictures of her adorable dad as he sleeps, I promise I won't move! LOL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tommonego@gmail.com Posted September 12, 2020 Share #22 Posted September 12, 2020 I really like the 23, I have been thinking of an 11-23, too wide for great landscapes, but WA lenses have their own nitch. You discover it when you have one, I have a decent one, it is not a great match for the CL, so looking for an 11-23. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 12, 2020 Share #23 Posted September 12, 2020 20 hours ago, jaapv said: Yes, but in general the APS-C format is not the best option for shallow-DOF photography anyway. I would recommend either an M/SL with Noctilux or Summilux, or a medium format camera for that discipline. Horses for courses! That's exactly my take on the value of CL/TL. It is a bridge between the M and P&S. For what CL/TL misses, it's the territory of M, ..., particularly M primes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 12, 2020 Share #24 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, pocholin said: I'm actually okay with depth of focus. I limit my ISO to 3200 to avoid grainy pics. Perhaps I should try 6400 and do noise reduction in my computer. Take into account that I am not a trained photographer, most of the moments I search to capture indoors (at home) are dinner/past dinner time when all I have is a lamp illuminating and no sunlight to supplement. If you are shooting indoors moving subject, then you probably really need a faster lens. I take a lot of family indoors "P&S", fortunately the subjects are rarely fast moving, or maybe I just consciously avoid the scene with that element. I found a monopod or a mini pods works pretty well. I just don't liken. flash. A flash with bouncing off the ceiling or wall may work, but it spoils the mood. Edited September 12, 2020 by Einst_Stein 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Markey Posted September 12, 2020 Share #25 Posted September 12, 2020 I started off using my CL with my M primes but since buying three native lenses the M primes are getting little use. The 55-135 is always in the bag because the main environment for me is equestrian arenas. There it`s now taken the place of the considerably heavier Canon 70-200/2.8 . I still find it difficult to believe that this tiny CL set up can bring in the shots. Other than that it`s either 23 or (more often now) the 35 . I guess I should round it off and get a wide but I don`t really shoot wide . Still an 18 would be useful and it doesn`t take up much space . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocholin Posted September 12, 2020 Share #26 Posted September 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: If you are shooting indoors moving subject, then you probably really need a faster lens. I take a lot of family indoors "P&S", fortunately the subjects are rarely fast moving, or maybe I just consciously avoid the scene with that element. I found a monopod or a mini pods works pretty well. I just don't liken. flash. A flash with bouncing off the ceiling or wall may work, but it spoils the mood. I agree, and that is why I recommended to SoCalLeicanator to get a faster lens (faster than the 11-23 since its fastest F is the same as the 18-56). He has two kids that will be moving a lot in the next decade and trying to capture those precious indoor moments without a flash (as you said, it spoils the mood) will be challenging. I got a flash for my CL but I hardly ever use it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted September 12, 2020 Share #27 Posted September 12, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I find the TL35/1.4 quite fast enough for indoor shots. I always use that rather than the zoom. The 50mm EFOV and the shallow depth of field provide really good people shots. It is, of course, a stunning lens at any time. If you own a Leica CL, the TL35 is a great way to see what it is capable of in a variety of settings, but particularly indoors and at night. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 12, 2020 Share #28 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, pocholin said: I agree, and that is why I recommended to SoCalLeicanator to get a faster lens (faster than the 11-23 since its fastest F is the same as the 18-56). He has two kids that will be moving a lot in the next decade and trying to capture those precious indoor moments without a flash (as you said, it spoils the mood) will be challenging. I got a flash for my CL but I hardly ever use it. These opportunities deserve the best lens you want! You will want the most convenient and fast catching gear. A fast zoom auto everything P&S would be the best bet, such as the newest D-lux or V-lux. Edited September 12, 2020 by Einst_Stein Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted September 13, 2020 Share #29 Posted September 13, 2020 I bought the CL body only because I already had enough lenses in M and R mount. I have little interest in buying more lenses. My most used lens in it is a circa 1972 Summilux 35 f/1.4. It produces very satisfying photos, and is fast for both low light and shallow DoF purposes. It's also very compact and lightweight. This focal length is the normal for APS-C: I always find a fast normal lens to be the most versatile and useful lens in my kit. I have several other lenses that are all used about the same amount equally, in both M and R mount. G Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted September 13, 2020 Share #30 Posted September 13, 2020 3 hours ago, ramarren said: I bought the CL body only because I already had enough lenses in M and R mount. I have little interest in buying more lenses. My most used lens in it is a circa 1972 Summilux 35 f/1.4. It produces very satisfying photos, and is fast for both low light and shallow DoF purposes. It's also very compact and lightweight. This focal length is the normal for APS-C: I always find a fast normal lens to be the most versatile and useful lens in my kit. I have several other lenses that are all used about the same amount equally, in both M and R mount. G CL is my upgrade of T. I bought T with the same mind set: a cheap M alternative. I use M kenses on it and I am super happy regardless it is mot full frame. But then the disasters came when my daughter bought me the first native soom. Wow, what a brave new world. A zoom can be that good? it is a previllage I dont have to switch the lens unless I really want to. The misfortunr continues till I have all three zooms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted September 13, 2020 Share #31 Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Einst_Stein said: CL is my upgrade of T. I bought T with the same mind set: a cheap M alternative. I use M kenses on it and I am super happy regardless it is mot full frame. But then the disasters came when my daughter bought me the first native soom. Wow, what a brave new world. A zoom can be that good? it is a previllage I dont have to switch the lens unless I really want to. The misfortunr continues till I have all three zooms. LOL! Well, at the price of even TL lenses, since I have everything I want for the CL as it is, I'd rather buy a new lens or two for my Hasselblad at this point. I only have two of the lenses I'd like for that, where I have over a dozen lenses for the CL that work to my satisfaction. The adventure continues apace...! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalLeicanator Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share #32 Posted September 14, 2020 Just to update. I called the local, independent photography store and they shockingly had the TL35. Over lunch today, I picked it up! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Posted September 19, 2020 Share #33 Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 1:46 AM, SoCalLeicanator said: Just to update. I called the local, independent photography store and they shockingly had the TL35. Over lunch today, I picked it up! Fantastic. Please let us know how you get on with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted September 19, 2020 Share #34 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) Great news. You wont be disappointed. The TL35 is a fine lens. Yes it is larger than other TL lenses, but still smaller than most full frame lenses, esp for a 1.4 aperture. Look forward to seeing your examples in the images thread. Edited September 19, 2020 by rob_w Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalLeicanator Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share #35 Posted September 21, 2020 Thanks all. I've taken a couple of shots, but life has gotten in the way for sure. I found with the 23 there was a pretty big learning curve and I didn't learn to love it until three months in. So far, my pics are actually better with the 23, but I know that will change and I look forward to sharing once I have something worthy of posting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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