onasj Posted July 10, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) - Launched in silver chrome and in black chrome - 40.8 MP (7864x5200) CMOS sensor with no low-pass filter - ISO 100-50,000 - No IBIS - No EVF - Shutter speed of 16 min to 1/4000s - Gorilla glass screen - Red Leica dot on the front, no top-plate engraving - Can still use the Visoflex EVF (listed under the "GPS" section of the specifications sheet at the link below). - Everything not stated above looks the same as the M10/M10-P/M10-M. https://leicarumors.com/2020/07/10/detailed-leica-m10-r-camera-specifications-leaked-online.aspx/#more-66331 Files containing spec sheet and launch photos (from Nokishita via LeicaRumors): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wUZDZmjfn2L4WpzrdGF4C-_uT_9b4J0k Edited July 10, 2020 by onasj 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yggdra.omega Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 10, 2020 Exactly what most were expecting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted July 10, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 10, 2020 vor 22 Minuten schrieb onasj: - Everything not stated above looks the same as the M10/M10-P/M10-M. Oh, so we don‘t know anxthing about the most essential part: is the hot shoe cover metal or plastic? 2 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 10, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 10, 2020 Other sources have said 45MP sensor and facility to mount EVF. I sincerely hope that they have not removed the EVF facility. That might come close to making me cancel my order. I often use non-RF lenses on my M240, in spite of its miserable EVF. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: Other sources have said 45MP sensor and facility to mount EVF. I sincerely hope that they have not removed the EVF facility. That might come close to making me cancel my order. I often use non-RF lenses on my M240, in spite of its miserable EVF. Wilson The 45 MP rumor was a misreading of a Japanese translation about the Canon EOS-R5. The specifications state the M10-R will maintain the ability to mount the Visoflex EVF (see the GPS section of the specifications at the link I posted above). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted July 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, UliWer said: Oh, so we don‘t know anxthing about the most essential part: is the hot shoe cover metal or plastic? I hope metal, but perhaps the metal hotshot covers will be released in the future as a Piet Mondrian limited edition accessory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted July 10, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 10, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does it have the M10-P Shutter? 🤔 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 10, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 10, 2020 A plastic accessory shoe would be an abomination. I had to replace the bottom half of the casing on my SF58D flash, because the shoe wore away to the point that one wing snapped off. Even before that the SF58D flash wobbled horribly and the Nissin built SF40 and 60 are so much better with their metal feet. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happymac Posted July 10, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2020 vor 20 Minuten schrieb Alexander-HH: Does it have the M10-P Shutter? 🤔 I don‘t think so. Some features have to be retained for launching a P-Version a few months later. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yggdra.omega Posted July 10, 2020 Share #10 Posted July 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Alexander-HH said: Does it have the M10-P Shutter? 🤔 I will be immensely disappointed if they do not include it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 10, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 10, 2020 vor 1 Minute schrieb yggdra.omega: I will be immensely disappointed if they do not include it Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yggdra.omega Posted July 10, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Paulus said: Why? I have an M10-P and the shutter is one of the most satisfying things about it, in my opinion. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted July 10, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 10, 2020 Does it carry over all the features of the P version such as quiet shutter, touch screen and electronic level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 10, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: Other sources have said 45MP sensor and facility to mount EVF. I sincerely hope that they have not removed the EVF facility. That might come close to making me cancel my order. I often use non-RF lenses on my M240, in spite of its miserable EVF. Wilson Nicci nailed it....back in January...in the original M10-R thread. He said the M10-R sensor would be derived from the wafer used with the S3 (identical pixel pitch), and the M10 Monochrom (just without Bayer array), the same way the M240 sensor was derived from the S007 wafer. Leica Rumors had no clue, and again misinterpreted information. I'll trust Nicci next time around. Jeff Edited July 10, 2020 by Jeff S 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted July 10, 2020 I would be very surprised if the M10-R didn't contain the M10-P/M10-M shutter and touchscreen. The specification sheet for the M10-P uses the exact same wording as the M10-R's leaked specifications (3" colour TFT LCD monitor with 16 million colours and 1,036,800 pixels, approx. 100 % image field, glass cover of extremely hard, scratch-resistant Gorilla® glass, colour space: sRGB, for Live-View and review mode, displays): https://us.leica-camera.com/content/download/151988/2693493/version/1/file/Datenblatt_M10_P_EN.pdf I doubt Leica would move backwards from the M10-P and M10-M to the M10-R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yggdra.omega Posted July 10, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Nicci nailed it....back in January...in the original M10-R thread. He said the M10-R sensor would be derived from the wafer used with the S3 (identical pixel pitch), and the M10 Monochrom (just without Bayer array), the same way the M240 sensor was derived from the S007 wafer. Leica Rumors had no clue, and again misinterpreted information. I'll trust Nicci next time around. Jeff Is it anticipated that this sensor will outperform the SL2 in regards to dynamic range and high ISO usability? My main reasoning keeping the SL2 was giving my M lenses IBIS, higher megapixel count, and potentially video, but I've found I never shoot video and it's been collecting dust alongside my Q2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strohscw Posted July 10, 2020 Share #17 Posted July 10, 2020 I think it is identical with the M10M, the identical sensor but with bayer filter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted July 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, yggdra.omega said: Is it anticipated that this sensor will outperform the SL2 in regards to dynamic range and high ISO usability? My main reasoning keeping the SL2 was giving my M lenses IBIS, higher megapixel count, and potentially video, but I've found I never shoot video and it's been collecting dust alongside my Q2. That's one of the few remaining questions. My best *guess* from pouring over Bill Claff's data and examining M10M, SL2, and S3 raw files in detail is YES, the M10-R will lose about one stop of high-ISO performance from the M10-M, which would mean acceptable ISO 25000 files and quite good ISO 12500 files, just like the S3. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 10, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 10, 2020 It's a common thing with all modern cameras and this is no exception, the higher the megapixels are the more bland the photographs become. This is the point in Leica history where going back to film is the guaranteed way to make a better photograph. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 10, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, yggdra.omega said: Is it anticipated that this sensor will outperform the SL2 in regards to dynamic range and high ISO usability? My main reasoning keeping the SL2 was giving my M lenses IBIS, higher megapixel count, and potentially video, but I've found I never shoot video and it's been collecting dust alongside my Q2. I have no idea about the measurement details, but for me these are different tools, providing different experiences, for different uses. I own the M10, SL2 and original Monochrom for those reasons. Each is fully capable of producing great files for incorporation into my print workflow. I’m sure the M10-R will be just as capable, although I have no compelling need for higher resolution in an M, or for higher ISO. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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