lykaman Posted June 18, 2019 Share #41 Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) San Disks SD's all & every time...I transfer the images to my computer, leave the card loaded in the camera till my next outing, then before I go out I Format..No Problems... Edited June 18, 2019 by lykaman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oka Posted June 18, 2019 Share #42 Posted June 18, 2019 I replaced Sandisk Extreme Pro cards to Sony Tough cards. There is drastically difference on mechanical endurance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 18, 2019 Share #43 Posted June 18, 2019 Lexar Sony Tough Sandisk All good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted June 19, 2019 Share #44 Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 9:50 PM, lioness731 said: Nice to know another Leica and Fuji shooter. I like both systems too. Hi Lioness731. I switched from Canon FF pro DSLRs to Fuji X after carrying 25 lbs of Canon gear in a back pack on a two week trip to Italy. I climbed the stairs of St Peter's Basilica at the Vatican in 100° temperatures and when I got to the top roof, I saw a guy with a Fuji X E1. I spoke to him about his camera and decided to investigate Fuji when I got home. With in few months, I switched to Fuji X with the X-E2, then the XT-1 and X100S. Within a year, I sold off all of my Canon pro bodies and L lenses to invested in the Fuji X system. I've upgraded my Fuji system as newer bodies and lenses became available over the past 4+ years. In Nov 2017, I scratched a lifelong itch by buying my first Leica, the M10, along with a Summicron 35 and Summilux 50 lenses. I was bitten heavily by the bug. Six months later, I purchased a second M10 body and over that year a few more Leica lenses. "Buy one, cry once!". I have since sold off my less used Fuji lenses. I use the Fuji, now the XT-3, with the excellent Fuji XF zooms, 10-24, 50-140 and 100-400 when I need fast action or long reach capabilities. 95% of the images that I have shot since buying my first Leica were captured using Leica gear. The shooting experience and image quality is addicting. Love it! Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted June 19, 2019 Share #45 Posted June 19, 2019 vor 4 Stunden schrieb budjames: I climbed the stairs of St. Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican in 100° temperatures and when I got to the top roof, I saw a guy with a Fuji X E1. I spoke to him about his camera and decided to investigate Fuji when I got home. With in a few months, I switched to Fuji X with the X-E2, then the XT-1 and X100S. They are usually paid by the manufacturers to proselytize. They prey on the weak and vulnerable in 100° temperatures at the top of the stairs. The Vatican takes a cut. The Jesus business alone doesn’t pay off anymore. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted June 19, 2019 Share #46 Posted June 19, 2019 @budjames The only country still using Fahrenheit for temperatures is the USA. Everyone else uses Celsius (although for scientific purposes the Kelvin scale may be used). 100 degrees for most people is the boiling point of water. It would probably clarify matters by using 100° F rather than just 100° (or 38° C). Those users of this forum who have never used degrees F are probably perplexed by it all, so I hope you don't mind me pointing this out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted June 19, 2019 Share #47 Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Bud, I can do quick conversions. No problem. It’s the international part of the forum. It’s fine to use Fahrenheit. In Germany we use US missiles for nuclear deterrence. The quick conversion, BTW, is subtract 32, divide by two, add 10 percent. It gets you 37.4 degrees Celsius for 100 degrees Fahrenheit which is close enough. Edit - And if one is really good in math, they’ll add 11 percent at the end. 😁 Edited June 19, 2019 by Chaemono Making a more precise calculation 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 20, 2019 Share #48 Posted June 20, 2019 SD cards never format properly in my M3 regardless of the brand <mutters to self> "must work out what I'm doing wrong ... " Pete. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 20, 2019 Share #49 Posted June 20, 2019 Where, exactly, are you inserting the card. The M3 can be very fussy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted June 20, 2019 Share #50 Posted June 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Peter Kilmister said: @budjames The only country still using Fahrenheit for temperatures is the USA. Everyone else uses Celsius (although for scientific purposes the Kelvin scale may be used). 100 degrees for most people is the boiling point of water. It would probably clarify matters by using 100° F rather than just 100° (or 38° C). Those users of this forum who have never used degrees F are probably perplexed by it all, so I hope you don't mind me pointing this out. I don't know the demographics of the forum users, but everyone can easily convert temperatures on the same computer or device that they view this forum. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 20, 2019 Share #51 Posted June 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, budjames said: everyone can easily convert temperatures Only if they know the scale initially used. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted June 20, 2019 Share #52 Posted June 20, 2019 12 hours ago, farnz said: SD cards never format properly in my M3 regardless of the brand <mutters to self> "must work out what I'm doing wrong ... " Pete. Pete - the M3 won't format ever --- you need the M2 double-stroke they format SD cards properly....every time! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukedavidkellett Posted June 23, 2019 Share #53 Posted June 23, 2019 On 12/23/2018 at 3:31 AM, pico said: All files on SD cards are fragmented, and the fragments are not contiguous (adjacent). Look into 'cluster size', 'blocks' and 'wear-leveling'. 100% correct. This don't delete files because of this is nonsense. This is how SD cards work to not overwrite the same space repeatedly and therefore spread out the load of read write over the whole memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 22, 2020 Share #54 Posted February 22, 2020 Well, after reading all the above, I ordered the SanDisk 64GB Extreme PRO SDXC UHS-1 Card from Amazon (B&H was my other option but with Amazon it's delivered tomorrow). Link is https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-64GB-Extreme-UHS-I-SDSDXXY-064G-GN4IN/dp/B07H9J1YXN/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?keywords=sd+memory+card+for+nikon+df+sandisk&qid=1582343462&sr=8-1-fkmr2. ......I dunno about formatting it in my M2, doesn't the M3 format it 50% faster? Once the new card arrives, I can put my original (re-formatted) card back into my Fuji X100f, so it will be happy again. Seriously, what's the problem with deleting images on the card? If I format the card each day I go out to use the camera, it will obliterate any fragmented files. I like deleting images that are junk, or mistakes, that just clog up the folder... but actually, I do this most of the time in PhotoMechanic, so I'm wasting my time in deleting in the camera. I guess I should get a second card, just in case my first card ever gets confused, but that hasn't happened to me in ages. Something I have yet to try is the setting that marks my "good" images. It's one more step, but presumably when I get back to my computer, it will be able to download only the marked images. Is this true? I don't think I'd ever have time to do that when I'm out with the camera though, as I'm usually thinking about the next photo to be taken. I've also turned Image Review to "OFF". Maybe I'll find a better way to do things eventually, but for now PhotoMechanic makes everything simple to do in minimal time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 22, 2020 Share #55 Posted February 22, 2020 I meant to ask - does the M10 have the ability to create separate folders, perhaps to start a new folder for each day's shooting? Would be handy on a trip to create a new folder for each day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted February 22, 2020 Share #56 Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) I learned digital photography on P.O.T.N. Which is mostly Canon. My card for first Canon DSLR from 2009 still works. Tens of thousands write, read, delete cycles. Cameras, computer doesn't matter. I have another digital cameras, not a problem. Yet, my M-E was acting up with its first card and was acting up recently with another. I have engineering diploma and working in service for couple of decades now. I'm sorry to put it this way here, but it is time to think not about cards as source of the problem. As long as card made by known manufacturer it should works. But at my previos, manufacturing, work and current one, end user, some manufacturers have it in written which card brand and model number to use. Maybe it is time for Leica Camera AG to start looking into these issues their digital M cameras are having. I like M-E and would like to update it at some time to newer digital M. M10 is very attractive:) Edited February 22, 2020 by Ko.Fe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 22, 2020 Share #57 Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) If you purchased your card from Ebay, or from anywhere other than something like Amazon or B&H, the card might look totally real, but it might be counterfeit. Not saying yours is, but that's one possibility. I'm assuming you formatted the card in the camera - if you just inserted it and started using it, while it probably would still work, that's leaving out a highly recommended step. If you still have the card that acted up, and it didn't work in your Leica M-E, maybe you can send it to the manufacturer or distributor of the card. If it is a genuine card, I expect they would replace it. Considering how little new quality cards cost nowadays, you could just throw it out and buy another. I also had a card that didn't work properly years ago - if I remember, my brother bought it while on a trip, and nothing I could do to it worked, including a slow format on a computer. That card went in the trash. Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe it's because I only buy Lexar, Sandisk, and a few other brands, and always buy them from someplace I consider a quality dealer, but I've never had a card that failed to work, even when I took a card out of one camera and used it in another. (Suggestion, if you still have the card that acted up in your camera, mount it on a computer and do s "slow format". It will take forever, but if the card is any good, that should correct it. If the computer complains about the card, there is no reason that a camera would do any better - as far as I know, you can't do a "slow format on a camera. Or, a better explanation, "If you choose the Quick format option, the format removes files from the partition, but does not scan the disk for bad sectors. ... The drive needs a Full Formatbecause it needs the entire file structures set-up, so the FAT actually has blocks and sectors to track, rather than a chaotic mess." ) More useful suggestions here: https://www.cardrecovery.com/photo-recovery/memory_card_error.asp Edited February 22, 2020 by MikeMyers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted February 22, 2020 Share #58 Posted February 22, 2020 I think using SD cards is like drinking whiskey, everyone’s experience differs. One thing a very old, very successful photographer said in a workshop, after listening to a fellow student waffle over buying another SD card so we could review daily images straight from the SD cards (no deletions): “You are spending the time and money to be here (a weeklong workshop) and you are walking around with a $15,000 camera and lens combo and can’t buy another SD card?” Personally I toss any card that shows even the slightest issue; the first time it shows up. I don’t get that many keeper images, so screwing one up with a bad SD card make no sense to me. Overall, I’ve found SD cards to be remarkably rugged storage media that’s cheap and it’s easy to carry a bunch. I also format the SD card every time it goes in the camera. If they “wear out” after a few years that is fine with me, the capacity and speed for the dollar gets better every year so I get to upgrade. Regards, Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted February 22, 2020 Share #59 Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, KFo said: I think using SD cards is like drinking whiskey, everyone’s experience differs. I love that. This is what's been working for me. I currently buy sandisk extreme 128(170mb/sec) cards, when they arrive I format them with sd formatter. Then the FIRST time they go in the camera they get formatted in camera. I don't delete images in camera or computer. I lock the card when I insert in my Mac, I use the card until its about 90% full then I start over with a brand new card.Old card gets labeled with date and camera then stored. at 40 bucks a card its pretty affordable for approximately 3 months worth of images. Currently using an M10P but have been doing this with M9/P, M240/P and M246 https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted February 29, 2020 Share #60 Posted February 29, 2020 https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1996/~/difference-between-speed-class%2C-uhs-speed-class%2C-speed-ratings-(performance) https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/reviews/sd-cards/sandisk-extreme-pro-170mbs-uhs-i-u3-v30-256gb-sdxc-memory-card/ https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/sd-memory-card-faq/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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