Photo Editing Monitor

[tommonego@gmail.com]

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My 10 year old Dell IPS is developing horizontal distortion, time for a new monitor. Eizio is not in my price range, but BenQ is so I am looking at a 24 inch BenQ Photo. I could save some money and get another Dell IPS. Any other advice? Thanks

[wda]

I have no experience with BenQ. As with most electronic devices, almost all will do the basic job. If you want stable linearity of luminance across the screen, you need to pay for more advanced designs. If colour fidelity is less important, most budget monitors will do the job, especially if your output is mainly via the internet.

[Jeff S]

NEC...quality near Eizo, but more reasonably priced.  My 2009 24" model is still working fine, and includes built in calibration software (SpectraView).

Jeff

[jaapv]

If you watch the used gear sites, you'll find that Eizo CG monitors will come up fairly often, and at quite reasonable prices. Graphic design studios tend to replace them regularly and they end up on the second-hand market.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

Checked out used Eizo monitors, I could get a great price if it was 9 or 10 years old, but anything newer was within $100 of a new price. I ended up ordering a 24 inch refurbished BenQ for well with in my price range and it is a highly rated monitor. 

Thanks everyone

[lumini]

I have a 10 year-old Eizo CG243 which is still excellent but it is end of life as far as calibration is concerned, as is my original Gretag Macbeth Eye1.  Neither can be used with modern software so I have to keep my Mac Pro 2010 going just to calibrate the screen.

Possibly a reason for Eizos to be on the secondhand market and a cautionary tale for purchasers.

Geoff

 

 

[wda]

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36 minutes ago, lumini said:

I have a 10 year-old Eizo CG243 which is still excellent but it is end of life as far as calibration is concerned, as is my original Gretag Macbeth Eye1.  Neither can be used with modern software so I have to keep my Mac Pro 2010 going just to calibrate the screen.

Possibly a reason for Eizos to be on the secondhand market and a cautionary tale for purchasers.

Geoff

 

 

I had a similar problem which I resolved by buying a new photometer.

[tommonego@gmail.com]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb lumini:

I have a 10 year-old Eizo CG243 which is still excellent but it is end of life as far as calibration is concerned, as is my original Gretag Macbeth Eye1.  Neither can be used with modern software so I have to keep my Mac Pro 2010 going just to calibrate the screen.

Possibly a reason for Eizos to be on the secondhand market and a cautionary tale for purchasers.

Geoff

 

 

That was the model number all over Ebay for less than $400 a couple for under $200, but I just thought I would be trading a 12 year old monitor for a 10 year old monitor. Glad to hear the software is not updatable so I won't waste any brain power worrying if I did the right thing.

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vor 57 Minuten schrieb wda:

I had a similar problem which I resolved by buying a new photometer.

Which photometer did you get? The BenQ comes with calibration SW but I'll have to see how it works, a photometer is next on my list. 

[Jeff S]

So maybe not apples to apples comparisons , as NEC (and EIZO) with built in software also include robust calibration hardware.  Even then, overall screen uniformity is important.

Jeff

[wda]

3 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

Which photometer did you get? The BenQ comes with calibration SW but I'll have to see how it works, a photometer is next on my list. 

I have the Xrite i-Photo which works with the Eizo software. I think there are later models now, but mine works flawlessly.

[lumini]

15 hours ago, Jeff S said:

So maybe not apples to apples comparisons , as NEC (and EIZO) with built in software also include robust calibration hardware.  Even then, overall screen uniformity is important.

Jef

It is the Eizo built-in software and calibration on my monitor that is no longer supported by Eizo on the latest Mac OS.  Their recommended solutions are either to not upgrade to the modern OS or to buy a new Eizo.

As for my Gretag Macbeth, Xrite (who took them over) don’t even acknowledge that it existed.  I don’t think buying a new photometer would help as the Eizo software still wouldn’t run on my monitor.  Perhaps Xrite’s would but I haven’t checked.

It’s all a bit academic for me at present as my old Mac and its old software still work with a bit of TLC although I had hoped to banish it and all of its cables.  If the Mac dies then I will have to rethink.

Geoff

[Jeff S]

6 hours ago, lumini said:

It is the Eizo built-in software and calibration on my monitor that is no longer supported by Eizo on the latest Mac OS.  Their recommended solutions are either to not upgrade to the modern OS or to buy a new Eizo.

As for my Gretag Macbeth, Xrite (who took them over) don’t even acknowledge that it existed.  I don’t think buying a new photometer would help as the Eizo software still wouldn’t run on my monitor.  Perhaps Xrite’s would but I haven’t checked.

It’s all a bit academic for me at present as my old Mac and its old software still work with a bit of TLC although I had hoped to banish it and all of its cables.  If the Mac dies then I will have to rethink.

Geoff

I once upgraded my Mac OS (I’m still running a 2009/2010 desktop) before realizing that my NEC SpectraView calibration software wasn’t yet supported.  It took about 6 months to catch up.  Lesson learned. I recently upgraded my Mac internals; hope it’s good for a few more years, but similarly not sure what I’ll do when it dies. I’m avoiding Catalina for the time being.  This computer stuff always needs attention and/or new purchase.  It’s bad enough when each individual supplier forces change, let alone when cross-company component parts require interaction. Meanwhile, my NEC monitor (and included Xrite puck) keeps chugging along, also for eleven years.

Jeff

[zeitz]

Eizo has excellent customer service.  Send them a note to see what the situation is for any particular monitor.  The latest Eizo software is Color Navigator 7 is 64 bit and runs great on Catalina.  But you can use any external calibration system, using the calibration system's software.  You don't have to use Eizo's software unless you really need to use the built-in calibrator.

[jaapv]

8 hours ago, lumini said:

It is the Eizo built-in software and calibration on my monitor that is no longer supported by Eizo on the latest Mac OS.  Their recommended solutions are either to not upgrade to the modern OS or to buy a new Eizo.

As for my Gretag Macbeth, Xrite (who took them over) don’t even acknowledge that it existed.  I don’t think buying a new photometer would help as the Eizo software still wouldn’t run on my monitor.  Perhaps Xrite’s would but I haven’t checked.

It’s all a bit academic for me at present as my old Mac and its old software still work with a bit of TLC although I had hoped to banish it and all of its cables.  If the Mac dies then I will have to rethink.

Geoff

It is not expensive, nor complicated, to use software calibration, for instance by XRite or Colorspyder in a case like this. You don't need to resort to Eizo software, just use the software from XRite. You can even try whether Colortrue (free) will run with your present photometer. I dropped ColorNavigator years ago, as I found it not very user friendly.

[PhotoCruiser]

In my house in Sardinia i have a Dell 27''  4K Monitor for a few years now, it worked great.
To make sure that the colors are right i have a Spyder and regularly check either the laptop and the dell screen.

Now i have in my Lenovo P70 a built-in Xrite Pantone color calibration device and that seems to work well.

As i am locked in my Hometown Zurich i bought a Benq PD3200U 32'' 4K Monitor to use the lockdown creatively working ond organizing my photos.
Beneath some pro options, the fabric color correction the amazing image quality makes it a great monitor for approx 700€

Sure, a Eizo would be the Rolls Royce for a monitor, but they start from 1300€ and the professional ones are above 2000€, so out of range for me.
A recent model, but used one could be a solution, to be honest i did not thought of that.

However, the latest model color calibration device is somwhere around 250€/$ and i think it's worth the money,
but if i should need to print color critical prints then i would first check with the print company what they use and what they recommend.
Printing correct color as seen on the screen is not realy a difficult task but need to be in harmony with the printing company.

Chris

[tommonego@gmail.com]

I bought a BenQ SW240, waiting for it, couldn't come too fast. My old Dell is starting to get wavy lines running across the screen, and the edges are starting to go. This has happened over the last month.

[Jeff S]

9 hours ago, PhotoCruiser said:

In my house in Sardinia i have a Dell 27''  4K Monitor for a few years now, it worked great.
To make sure that the colors are right i have a Spyder and regularly check either the laptop and the dell screen.

Now i have in my Lenovo P70 a built-in Xrite Pantone color calibration device and that seems to work well.

As i am locked in my Hometown Zurich i bought a Benq PD3200U 32'' 4K Monitor to use the lockdown creatively working ond organizing my photos.
Beneath some pro options, the fabric color correction the amazing image quality makes it a great monitor for approx 700€

Sure, a Eizo would be the Rolls Royce for a monitor, but they start from 1300€ and the professional ones are above 2000€, so out of range for me.
A recent model, but used one could be a solution, to be honest i did not thought of that.

However, the latest model color calibration device is somwhere around 250€/$ and i think it's worth the money,
but if i should need to print color critical prints then i would first check with the print company what they use and what they recommend.
Printing correct color as seen on the screen is not realy a difficult task but need to be in harmony with the printing company.

Chris

NEC monitors are high quality and reliable like EIZO, but much more reasonably priced, although I haven’t researched recent models, as mine is still running fine after eleven years.  And it included built in calibration software as well as Xrite hardware.

Jeff

[PhotoCruiser]

vor 42 Minuten schrieb Jeff S:

NEC monitors are high quality and reliable like EIZO, but much more reasonably priced, although I haven’t researched recent models, as mine is still running fine after eleven years.  And it included built in calibration software as well as Xrite hardware.

Yeah, right, i forgot to mention NEC as hey became in Switzerland somehow less used in the last 20 years ago and they don't have reasonable 4k UHD monitors.
For who is fine wit HD resolution a NEC will be a good solution as well!

Chris

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