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1 hour ago, raphael said:

I do find it quite astounding how a "No" followed by a "But you could try..." advice is grasped as an insult.

Because the advice given implies that I have a turnip for a brain. And also it's not like I was angry or frustrated about the lack of being able to disable it. I was literally just asking a simple question with a yes/no answer and I got treated like a moron. Someone else even said that it's the stupidest question ever asked on this forum. Can you blame me for getting defensive? Also he didn't say "no" he said "I don't think so" - which means the only purpose of his response was to give a patronizing piece of advice. 

1 hour ago, Stealth3kpl said:

He was referring to putting tape over the 3 buttons on the back of the M10, rather than putting tape over the play button of 3 M10s.

Pete

Read the rest of his post. He says he either puts tape on his M10 or uses his film M or M-D.

1 hour ago, Stealth3kpl said:

This is the second error you made.

Pete

The first and only error I made was coming to a Leica community and being surprised that it's full of snobs. 

11 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

BarberShop,

If you stay with us (if you want to of course), you would see that we are helpful in teasing out problems (from newbies mostly),

and at times we (some of us...) are just teasing.

Well I appreciate your encouraging comments but the other commenters were quick to hop on like lions to a fresh kill. 

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17 minutes ago, BarberShop said:

Read the rest of his post. He says he either puts tape on his M10 or uses his film M or M-D.

Ah, I see to what you were responding now. I stopped reading above the dotted lines as I assumed below them was a "Signature".

19 minutes ago, BarberShop said:

The first and only error I made was coming to a Leica community and being surprised that it's full of snobs. 

Surely judging someone by the number of Leicas they own is snobbery. Some people here are professional photographers. Some have owned their film Leicas for 40 years. 

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On 4/27/2020 at 10:18 PM, Stealth3kpl said:

Surely judging someone by the number of Leicas they own is snobbery. Some people here are professional photographers. Some have owned their film Leicas for 40 years. 

The snobbery comment was because of the responses I've received. I mean two pages later and still not a single person has actually come in to answer the question with a straight Yes or No (although I am past caring now). This isn't isolated to this thread either. Just yesterday I saw another argument because of a simple question and one of the responses was "But you have a snotty attitude and give new meaning to English as a second language. You should work on that."

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On a more serious note, this forum is a wealth of information. I have certainly learnt a lot more coming to it than not. When I see snobbish responses or condescension, whether to myself or others, I try to ignore them. Sometimes  it could be down to language and manner of expression (this forum has members from all over the world) and humour (whether in bad taste or not). If not, we move along. I take the position to treat others with decorum and follow forum etiquette and if others don't do the same, it's on them. There will always be more abrasive or direct people out there anyway. 

We all ask silly questions sometimes, perfectly valid in our minds...though to be honest if you didn't take the responses on the previous page so personally you might have seen the answer was right there.

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NO!

I usually don't usually buy into hostile or confrontational threads but obviously all these replies make it clear you can't turn it off! They were just saying that in a lighthearted way.  

It would be nice to be able to reassign some buttons (many would agree with this) but as it is't possible so just don't press it. 

This forum is a friendly place. I think if you look at the initial responses again you might see that the 'advice' was lighthearted rather than condescending, and has been misinterpreted.  A. Noctilux is not someone who I would have thought put people down or gave condescending replies.  If you look back over my almost 9000 posts I have never been condescending to another forum member.  I must say that it has been your over-the-top replies that have led to the rest of the comments. 

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My guess would be that some sort of 'purity of capture' is evident in the original question, like you can't be skilled or teach yourself the art of taking a snap if you can then rethink it by chimping the shot.

The point would be to the OP is why when nobody could chimp in the days of film was so much film used to get one photograph? With a film in your camera you'd blast away hoping to get the perfect picture, even for HCB, but with digital you chimp the image and say your day is done.

There are aspects of photography that do concentrate the mind, like having one darkslide available (two photos) in large format and you have to make some serious decisions, but miniature formats whether film or digital have always been about a semi machine gun approach if the subject needed it, that is what made 35mm important, it shouldn't now be denigrated.

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17 hours ago, 250swb said:

My guess would be that some sort of 'purity of capture' is evident in the original question, like you can't be skilled or teach yourself the art of taking a snap if you can then rethink it by chimping the shot.

The point would be to the OP is why when nobody could chimp in the days of film was so much film used to get one photograph? With a film in your camera you'd blast away hoping to get the perfect picture, even for HCB, but with digital you chimp the image and say your day is done.

There are aspects of photography that do concentrate the mind, like having one darkslide available (two photos) in large format and you have to make some serious decisions, but miniature formats whether film or digital have always been about a semi machine gun approach if the subject needed it, that is what made 35mm important, it shouldn't now be denigrated.

Agree with this, but the obvious (digital) answer would be to buy the M10-D.  No play button, no rear screen, no chipping.  Job done.

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On 5/6/2020 at 4:22 PM, T25UFO said:

Agree with this, but the obvious (digital) answer would be to buy the M10-D.  No play button, no rear screen, no chipping.  Job done.

Or purchase a half case with a back door for the M10.

Leica has apparently chosen to minimise the number of controls that can be customised on M cameras (none on the M9, only the thumb wheel on the M10), something I actually like. No need to remember what function I had assigned to which control on which camera.

But if they made the buttons on the left configurable in a future firmware update, I would suggest the only alternative function of the Play button to be Delete 🙂

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