elgenper Posted February 28, 2020 Share #21 Posted February 28, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/25/2020 at 2:48 PM, Rob L said: ... Harry Benz! Except that unless they have changed, I don't like his split rings because the way the ends are cut, they are very sharp and can chew up your strap lugs on the camera. ... OK, this is what I do with my Harry Benz rings: electrical shrink tubing over the wire ends! Some work to get it in place, and if you want to remove the strap, you´ll have to slice the tubing with a scalpel. But, after getting Harry Benz straps mounted on both my Leicas, I don´t think I´ll ever want to take them off (except if sending the camera in for service...). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306786-highly-technical-strap-questions/?do=findComment&comment=3921161'>More sharing options...
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Rob L Posted February 28, 2020 Share #22 Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) I would like to revise my earlier comment a bit. On most cameras, including Leica M, it is physically impossible for the ring to come in contact with the camera, but some cameras, including my Fuji X100F have the strap lugs mounted so high that the ring will catch to top edge of the top plate. In that case, I have used a rubber O-ring between the lug and the split ring, against the camera body to limit the articulation of the ring. I got this idea from the Gordy's website, who's straps have not been mentioned yet here but are a regular on most Leica M strap threads! https://gordyscamerastraps.com/ Edited February 28, 2020 by Rob L edit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomconte Posted February 29, 2020 Share #23 Posted February 29, 2020 Pretty expensive, but hey I like to spoil my baby. Cotton strap 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted February 29, 2020 Share #24 Posted February 29, 2020 I use one of these: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306786-highly-technical-strap-questions/?do=findComment&comment=3921948'>More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 29, 2020 Share #25 Posted February 29, 2020 Gee, you don't need to worry about anyone stealing your camera - they'll all be staring at that stunningly beautiful strap!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1955 Posted March 2, 2020 Share #26 Posted March 2, 2020 I am reluctant to weigh in on such a topic - it being almost a matter of religion to some. However, I was frustrated at the length of many straps, and the inability to adjust them for length to cater for winter clothes (longer) or summer (shorter). I toyed with the idea of an Australian kangaroo skin plaited belt similar to the one that holds my pants up, but in the end opted, happily, for a Gariz strap (see https://gariz.com.au/collections/shoulder-straps/products/gariz-black-genuine-leather-adjust-strap-xs-chlsnbk2) which is adjustable between 118cm and 136cm (or 46" to 54"). There are toggles that cover the ends, protecting the camera from abrasion (a concern of many), and once broken in (took 30 minutes of bending while watching TV) is very soft and subtle - I often carry it wrapped loosely and softly around my hand. Easily adjusted and easily removed. Added bonus - it is currently priced at $80AUD or, with the recent tanking of the Australian dollar, approx $49USD - a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunil Posted March 3, 2020 Share #27 Posted March 3, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/29/2020 at 6:13 AM, jdlaing said: I use one of these: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What camera did you buy to fit that strap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 3, 2020 Share #28 Posted March 3, 2020 7 hours ago, sunil said: What camera did you buy to fit that strap? I use it on an M-240P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazphoto Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted March 4, 2020 Hi all, Belated return to this thread and a big thank you to all the contributors, including the numbered reply from KFo! Seems to be a reasonable consensus (on very low data quantity, I give you) that the stitching on the RnR can go, but is easy to redo. Does occur to me that the chances of all four stitch points giving way at the same time are low. Regarding the wear point on contact with the side of the top plate, thanks for the pictures. Based on that and input from other sources, it seems that the edge of the leather strap itself (perhaps particularly if doubled over) can cause wear. In that sense, the circular protective tabs on the Rock n Roll are less use than rectangular protectors which have a hole for the strap lug and one through which the strap passes above the rings. Couple of the straps shown in this thread do that, as does my Annie Barton Carerra. If I was being hyper-critical (which is, after all, the nature of this thread) I’d note that several strap protectors seem to position the lug hole too low for the rings. Good idea re the insulating tape, which I had seen elgenper post on another thread, but I can’t square that with the aesthetic of a nice leather strap or my desire to be plastic-free. Strap adjustment for length is done very neatly in the Leica strap that Tom Johnston favours, but I’m happy to buy a fixed length strap, since I have a good feel for what length works for me. All of which leaves me much wiser, but still undecided! I should have known better, I suppose, but am glad to have the details and look forward to whiling away non-photographic hours (primarily the train to work) musing strap decisions. cheers chaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted March 4, 2020 Share #30 Posted March 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Chazphoto said: .......Strap adjustment for length is done very neatly in the Leica strap that Tom Johnston favours, but I’m happy to buy a fixed length strap, since I have a good feel for what length works for me...... I naturally put on the Leica strap that came with the m10, and so far most of the time its a fairly comfortable length. Years ago, I used to "bunch up" the excess strap in my hands, so I could "pull" on the strap as one more way to keep the camera from moving. I didn't realize it at the time, but this was with my M3 and a three-way adjustable Leica strap. I have three film Leica cameras, and gave way the one that doesn't work to the fellow who fixed my 90mm Summicron. Before I sent it off, I removed the strap. It is soft, and pliable, and has the adjustments for length in the photo up above. I'm away from home right now, but I think I'll remove the stock strap and replace it with my old one. Like I said, it is "soft", and pliable, and comfortable to wear. Maybe it used to have a wider part to go over the shoulder, but I don't remember ever having that. I'll take a photo of it when I get home, before mounting it. I don't like gaudy straps, no matter how beautiful they are, nor do I like bright colored straps, or wide straps. I didn't realize it until now, but I think I prefer straps adjustable for length. .........to be continued on Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgillberg Posted March 17, 2020 Share #31 Posted March 17, 2020 I've always looked for the ultimate strap and I've used many of them. Leica, Artisan etc. But for me it all comes down to the quality of the leather and simplicity. The strap I love to use is the old Leica strap that come with my M6, M7, but I can't use it with my M10P without getting hard marks from the plastic connector. The lengths of that strap works for both cross chest and axle. I'm familiar to work with leather and I've made many items for my own in the past years. I love leather and when I met my neighbor with his dog in his leash I'd know where I could find good leather. I went to my local pet shop and bought a lovely dog leash in the most satisfying leather. This is how it looks. Used the split rings from the original strap, but sanded it down because it feels like a razor blade when new. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306786-highly-technical-strap-questions/?do=findComment&comment=3933326'>More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted March 17, 2020 Share #32 Posted March 17, 2020 Looks excellent, did you stitch it together by hand? Instead of the dog now you walk the camera - great excuse back home! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgillberg Posted March 17, 2020 Share #33 Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, AndreasG said: Looks excellent, did you stitch it together by hand? Instead of the dog now you walk the camera - great excuse back home! Yes! I now walk my camera.😀 And yes I stitched it by hand. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazphoto Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share #34 Posted March 23, 2020 Excellent handiwork; far exceeds my capabilities. I do have a few dogs that needs leads, however.... chaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgillberg Posted March 27, 2020 Share #35 Posted March 27, 2020 I'll do dog leashes, to camera straps. I've lost my summer income to corona virus so I might have found another way to make a living. ☺️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Sixten Posted March 28, 2020 Share #36 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) I like my straps a little longer than you normally find camera straps you buy, as I carry my camera cross chest. After trying several brands, I gave up and made one from the dog leash from my first dog. Nothing fancy, but it works fine. I couldn't do the fine stitching hand craft that dgp is a master of. I have used this for a couple of years now for all my cameras. Here on my M10M. Photo with M10, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 28, 2020 by Bo-Sixten 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306786-highly-technical-strap-questions/?do=findComment&comment=3941260'>More sharing options...
LeicaS2 Posted March 29, 2020 Share #37 Posted March 29, 2020 This was a thread I should have skipped. I was perfectly happy with my current over the shoulder peak design strap. Then I read here about Harry Benz. I confess I had never heard of Harry Benz before. It will take me eight weeks to see if it’s as great as it seems. I like releasing my camera from aa over the shoulder strap and their J Loop version is made for it. I also like retaining a hand strap and they have a version that allows for it to combine beautifully with the j loop. Got to their website carefully. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306786-highly-technical-strap-questions/?do=findComment&comment=3941681'>More sharing options...
lawman Posted March 29, 2020 Share #38 Posted March 29, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 2:50 AM, elgenper said: OK, this is what I do with my Harry Benz rings: electrical shrink tubing over the wire ends! Some work to get it in place, and if you want to remove the strap, you´ll have to slice the tubing with a scalpel. But, after getting Harry Benz straps mounted on both my Leicas, I don´t think I´ll ever want to take them off (except if sending the camera in for service...). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Harry Benz straps are a delight and his rings stay put once installed. Harry has intentionally made the ring ends pointed so that they can be installed on the camera without the use of special tools. He recommends that after installation you just sand or file down the ends and the camera is fully protected. I used a small file and then polished with a dremel tool. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgillberg Posted April 1, 2020 Share #39 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) On 3/28/2020 at 4:05 PM, Bo-Sixten said: I like my straps a little longer than you normally find camera straps you buy, as I carry my camera cross chest. After trying several brands, I gave up and made one from the dog leash from my first dog. Nothing fancy, but it works fine. I couldn't do the fine stitching hand craft that dgp is a master of. I have used this for a couple of years now for all my cameras. Here on my M10M. Photo with M10, 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi Bo-Sixten, I might used a leash from the same manufacture. I just cut the braided part and did a stitch instead. The leather ages wonderfully. Yours look nice too and I also like a little longer strap especially when it's cold outside and you wear big clothes. I'm also from Sweden btw. Edited April 1, 2020 by dickgillberg edited my location 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Sixten Posted April 1, 2020 Share #40 Posted April 1, 2020 5 hours ago, dickgillberg said: Hi Bo-Sixten, I might used a leash from the same manufacture. I just cut the braided part and did a stitch instead. The leather ages wonderfully. Yours look nice too and I also like a little longer strap especially when it's cold outside and you wear big clothes. I'm also from Sweden btw. Thanks, dgp. I sent you a message in your profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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