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2 hours ago, microview said:

It just means that you focus on a given point then stop down and the lens will slightly have changed its focus point forwards or backwards. The one obvious benefit of EVF live view is that you can exactly see the sharpness for your aperture selection.

Thanks, That's what I thought it might have meant. 

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On 3/1/2020 at 12:09 AM, mediumformula said:

Thanks, That's what I thought it might have meant. 

Don’t all the Leica non-FLE 35mm lenses suffer from a little focus shift as well? I noticed it a lot on the Nokton version I, certainly not on version II - although I can see some with a focusing chart, never noticed on any pictures, and I do focus precisely using all apertures according to need. YMMV, but don’t discount it on hearsay, especially from people that haven’t used it! 

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Unfortunately I had problems with my Nokton Version I when stopping down. When taking portraits of people leaning on a wall and focused on their face, everything was perfect at f1.4 but stopped down to f2.8 my focus shifted to the wall and their face was kinda blurry.

So, at the end I got myself the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 MC Version II last week and it's by far the better lens in every aspect. It's sharper at every f-stop, less CA, less barrel distortion and vignetting and most importantly: Almost no focus-shift, the only f-stop I suffer from the shift is at f2.8 but clearly not as bad as with the old one.

I am also happy to see that the beautiful rendering of the bokeh hasn't changed at all. It still has the same look but the focused area is just sharper, so upgrading was the best decision for me.

If anyone has questions about the lens, feel free to ask! 🙂 

PS: Thanks again for all the helpful answers!

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19 hours ago, mheine said:

Unfortunately I had problems with my Nokton Version I when stopping down. When taking portraits of people leaning on a wall and focused on their face, everything was perfect at f1.4 but stopped down to f2.8 my focus shifted to the wall and their face was kinda blurry.

So, at the end I got myself the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 MC Version II last week and it's by far the better lens in every aspect. It's sharper at every f-stop, less CA, less barrel distortion and vignetting and most importantly: Almost no focus-shift, the only f-stop I suffer from the shift is at f2.8 but clearly not as bad as with the old one.

I am also happy to see that the beautiful rendering of the bokeh hasn't changed at all. It still has the same look but the focused area is just sharper, so upgrading was the best decision for me.

If anyone has questions about the lens, feel free to ask! 🙂 

PS: Thanks again for all the helpful answers!

I’ve had version 1 for ten years and have found similar issues. IMHO, f/2.8 and f/4 are unusable within six feet (two meter outside the US). Consequently, I avoid these apertures at close distances and just use f/2 or f/5.6 instead. This really isn’t much of an issue as I do not consider 35mm to be a portrait focal length. For larger scenes, however, the distances involved overcome the focus shift. 

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On 3/1/2020 at 4:57 AM, microview said:

It just means that you focus on a given point then stop down and the lens will slightly have changed its focus point forwards or backwards. The one obvious benefit of EVF live view is that you can exactly see the sharpness for your aperture selection.

I thought focus shift is like it stays... say when focus at a point @ f1.4 it will shift 

like the zeiss plannar suffers from focus shifts and from the factory it was told to best use f2 to eliminate? Instead of f1.5
or there are other type of focus shifts?

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Am 7.3.2020 um 09:33 schrieb jakontil:

I thought focus shift is like it stays... say when focus at a point @ f1.4 it will shift 

like the zeiss plannar suffers from focus shifts and from the factory it was told to best use f2 to eliminate? Instead of f1.5
or there are other type of focus shifts?

The focus on the Norton is on point at f1.4 but shifts when stopping down. Instead of increasing the focused area, it will move the focus point. But this will not happen at any f-stops just on a few, mine was really bad / unusable at f2.8 and f4.

Hope this helps! Don't have any other experiences with other lenses that suffer from focus shift.

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On 3/7/2020 at 3:33 AM, jakontil said:

I thought focus shift is like it stays... say when focus at a point @ f1.4 it will shift 

like the zeiss plannar suffers from focus shifts and from the factory it was told to best use f2 to eliminate? Instead of f1.5
or there are other type of focus shifts?

although I don't own the Plannar I have never read of any issues. On the other hand, the Sonnar is known for focus shift problems just as you describe but there are people who love that lens for it's 'look'. 

I received my Nokton 35/1.4 II yesterday - what a lovely lens to behold! Now I just need my MtoL adapter to get it on my CL.

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@mheine Which camera/film(?) did you use to take those portraits with the 35 Nokton? If a digital camera, how did you process them? The colours and tones are very nice.

Edited to add: okay, I see that it's the M10. What program did you use for the post work? These are some of the better M10 images I've seen in terms of colour.

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Am 26.5.2020 um 06:20 schrieb Archiver:

@mheine Which camera/film(?) did you use to take those portraits with the 35 Nokton? If a digital camera, how did you process them? The colours and tones are very nice.

Edited to add: okay, I see that it's the M10. What program did you use for the post work? These are some of the better M10 images I've seen in terms of colour.

Hello, sorry for my late response, I wasn't active on this forum for quite some time. 

Yes, you read it right, I use the Leica M10, so digital. 
I do all my edits on my iPhone 7 and Lightroom Mobile with some custom presets I build on my own. The most important thing is adding grain and taking off some clarity - that's about it. 

You can see some more shots on my Instagram account if you want to: https://instagram.com/matijes

Hope this help, if you have any question - simply text me. 

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i'm using v ii on M10 - looks quite sharp to me both stopped down and opened up. i haven't noticed distortion, but haven't tested it on a brick wall just yet. Can't justify spending 10x on a comparable (spec wise) summilux which is also larger.

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