kinross Posted January 16, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would like to update my computer. It is an 2011 IMac. I use it with an Eizo colour monitor and would like to take the opportunity to use only that monitor and remove the IMac screen thus freeing up valuable desk space. I am considering either a refurbished Apple core computer, the cylinder type or the reintroduced Apple mini. Either would allow me to use just the Eizo for editing and the small amount of on line work I do on the Mac. I do most internet work on IPad. I rearlise that these are two expensive options but I do not have use, or like laptops etc. Do any forum members have experience of these two types of computer or any Ideas that I might consider. I want to stay with Apple system. Thanks in advance for any help. Mike. the Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted January 16, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 16, 2020 You could also consider a 2010-2013 Mac Pro Tower, upgraded and loaded internally to meet current demands (done personally or by third party). I’m still using a 2009 machine, which had a FW change to match 2010 capability, along with my similarly aged NEC screen. I’ve never been a fan of the trash can models, but that’s just me. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted January 16, 2020 Thanks for that Jeff. Will put that one down for consideration. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 16, 2020 Share #4 Posted January 16, 2020 My fully upgraded mid-2010 Cheesegrater MacPro with two Eizo CG screens does a perfect editing job. The only downside is that modern AI programs like Topaz DeNoise AI tend to run slowly - but it gives one time to replenish the caffein blood levels or flip an LP. or similar. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted January 16, 2020 Share #5 Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) I have access to up to date model Mac Mini, MacBook Pro 16 inch, iMac etc. Performance is really strong on these... Edited January 16, 2020 by 105012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted January 16, 2020 Share #6 Posted January 16, 2020 The late 2013 MacPro is obsolete (obsolete graphics card and no Thunderbolt 3 / USB-C) and is not upgradeable in any way. It should be avoided. A late 2018 MacMini with an eGPU is a much better option. I have no experience with MacPro towers, but I know folks who get great success with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted January 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am leaning towards the cheesegrater type. I do not really need latest tech. I only wish to connect the Eizo, sure colour P800, v700 scanner LR 6 standalone and Image print black. ( excellent programme ). The Mac Pro round about 2010 are quite reasonable priced over here with some warranty. If it all goes pear shaped not such a big loss. 105012, thanks for info but would prefer to keep my purchase within U.K. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 16, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, kinross said: I am leaning towards the cheesegrater type. I do not really need latest tech. I only wish to connect the Eizo, sure colour P800, v700 scanner LR 6 standalone and Image print black. ( excellent programme ). The Mac Pro round about 2010 are quite reasonable priced over here with some warranty. If it all goes pear shaped not such a big loss. My (effective) 2010 tower, loaded up, easily handles my LR Classic files, P800, IP 10, NEC screen, etc, along with external backup on and offsite. Small investment relative to newer machines, and runs about as fast (confirmed by a Mac specialist friend who bench tested my machine against his new trash can Mac.) Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted January 16, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 16, 2020 Jeff, what graphics card are you using? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 16, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 16, 2020 I think it’s the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted January 16, 2020 I have just been looking at the physical dimensions of the computer and it does seem quite large. I wish to get rid of my IMac monitor to free up much needed desk space. I do not think I can put the box under my desk. Will have to think about it. Shame as I feel the 2010 to 2012 models would be a cost effective solution for me. Will sleep on it. cheers. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 17, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) There must be floor space somewhere, no? Mine sits adjacent to my desk. I’m thankful I no longer need dedicated darkroom space, so my office doubles as a computer editing and printer room. But there’s still another room devoted to matting and framing supplies, portfolio drawers, work table and work print viewing. This hobby takes lots of space. Let’s not even get into audio. 😳 Jeff Edited January 17, 2020 by Jeff S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 17, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Jeff S said: I think it’s the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680. Jeff Same here. But I downgraded to High Sierra to be able to run some older apps. I don't see any advantage in Mojave, let alone Catalina. It sits next to my desk, under the printer shelf. I don't even notice it is there 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 17, 2020 Share #14 Posted January 17, 2020 I’m sticking with Mojave... runs my apps, but no need or desire for Catalina. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted January 17, 2020 I have looked under my desk in the fresh light of day and do think the computer would sit under at the back against wall with air space. I have looked at spec and do not see an HDMI port mentioned. Will I be ok with my Eizo. I have it connected to HDMI and also a USB cable for I think, something called upstream connection. I am not very computer literate so apologies if this is a dumb question. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 17, 2020 Share #16 Posted January 17, 2020 It depends on your video card. Normally it will take VGA, DVI and HDMI. I connect my Eizos via DVI. The original MacPro card needs a DVI connection (standard on your Eizo), the cable with the white connectors. Note, however, that you will need an upgraded video card to be able to install Mojave or Catalina. https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2018/6/12/how-do-you-find-mojave-compatible-graphics-cards-for-cheese-grater-apple-mac-pro-51-computers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinross Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted January 17, 2020 Thanks jaapv for info. Will wait to see what the unit I buy comes with. one more novice question. I am running high Sierra at the moment. I intend to use migration assistant to transfer data over from my external back up drive. If the new computer has say, mojavie installed will high Sierra be installed from drive or will Mojavie take over. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted January 17, 2020 Share #18 Posted January 17, 2020 15 hours ago, kinross said: 105012, thanks for info but would prefer to keep my purchase within U.K. Sorry for any confusion: I was not offering to sell (not in that business!). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 17, 2020 Share #19 Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, kinross said: Thanks jaapv for info. Will wait to see what the unit I buy comes with. one more novice question. I am running high Sierra at the moment. I intend to use migration assistant to transfer data over from my external back up drive. If the new computer has say, mojavie installed will high Sierra be installed from drive or will Mojavie take over. Mike. If you use the migration assistant you should be able to keep your OS on the new computer. You can always reinstall Mojave if needed, that ia simple procedure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 17, 2020 Share #20 Posted January 17, 2020 Worth being aware of this threat to the Lighning connector, even if you can do nothing about it. Most large tech companies in such cases will cry 'stifling innovation' as Apple does, but in this case (and as a diehard Windows/Android user) I think they're right. The Lightning connector is promoted as more robust than USB-C, and I'd agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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