Sending 1st Leica CL images

[Lee997]

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Hi all, not sure which category to submit my question so sorry if I’m wrong!

ive had a Few weeks with my new CL and am very happy with it.

ive been playing with a little editing using Lightroom on my iPad and this is where my question comes in, I’d like to send some of the edited pictures via email however it seems I have to do this within Lightroom using the action button top right ( like a box with an arrow pointing up), or am I mistaken in thinking that Lightroom hasn’t applied the changes to my picture library on my iPad (were all my pictures are stored) or is it only the pictures in Lightroom that have been edited?

thanks Lee.

[jaapv]

Use the export dialog. 

[zeitz]

Lee, it takes some time getting used to these image editing programs.

If you are using raw files, such as .dng, your edits are never "applied" to the original file.  The edits can be stored within the original file or the edits can be stored in a sidecar file.  Lightroom uses .xmp if you have set Lightroom to use sidecars.  Either method insures that you can get back to the original image taken by the camera.  You can read the content of an .xmp file with any text application.

If you use .jpg files, you are actually changing the file.

Lightroom, and Capture One, use this jargon of "import" and "export".  I'm an old dog used to "open", "save" and "close", so "import" and "export" are strange to me.  If you use Bridge, Adobe Camera Raw (ACR), and Photoshop, you can use "open", "save" and "close"; the changes are "applied" as in the two previous paragraphs.  When you save an image in Photoshop (other than a sidecar), you have to choose formats (.psd, .jpg, .tif, .bmp, etc).  (Capture One also has "sessions".  I have no idea what they are.)

Photoshop can work on your laptop/desktop and your iPad via cloud storage, as can Lightroom.  The Adobe icons either have square corners or rounded corners (at least on Macs).  If the corners are square, the apps only work on a laptop/desktop.  If the corners are rounded, the apps can work across laptop/desktop and mobile devices.  Bridge unfortunately has square corners.  Lightroom Classic has square corners.  I have not used Photoshop on an iPad, so I don't know if you get into ACR when you open a raw file on a mobile device or if you can use an ACR filter.

[Exodies]

Not sure what the two guys above are on about.

 

My preferred method:

On the iPad in Lightroom, use the box with an up arrow, then the box with an up arrow again, called share-to, then tap copy. Go to mail, start a new message, tap in the text box and choose paste.

Lightroom will read from your photos and store a copy in the cloud, it doesn’t alter the picture in photos.

[zeitz]

I was trying to clarify what the OP meant by "apply the changes".   I don't know file format the OP is starting with.  (Can a Leica CL also save in .tif format in addition to .dng and .jpg?)

If you "import" a .dng file, the edits are either placed in the .dng file without changing the raw data; or alternately the edits are placed in a .xmp sidecar.  It is the user's option.  If Lightroom is used for mail, the file has to be in a format other than .dng.  I assume it is .jpg.  If your normal mail app is used for mail, you have to "export" the file as a .jpg.

If you "import" a .jpg file, the edits alter the original image.  That is the changes are applied to the file.

So if you want to send an e-mail after you have processed a file, you have two options:  mail/start new message/text box as you described and as the OP points out; or "export" the file and handle it with your normal e-mail as Jaap points out.

As I have stated before ad nauseam I do not use Lightroom because I despise the "import", "export" jargon and process.  I just want to go to my folder and open/save/close.  As of yet I don't use mobile devices, but I may get an iPad.  When I do, I still won't use Lightroom.  I will use Photoshop which now supports file interchange between devices via the Adobe Cloud.

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[Exodies]

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Very nice but the OP did say iPad.

[Lee997]

Thank you to all, I appreciate there are differences between packages and what there used on so I’ll do some research. I do also have a Mac which 8 used to use for all my picture editing however I have a very good iPad Pro high is just great and i use it more than anything else now.

I’m now assuming Lightroom creates its own picture library as I’ve found the pictures I adjusted can only be found within Lightroom?

 

Lee

[LocalHero1953]

LR creates a catalogue/database for all your images in-place - it doesn't move them around unless you ask it to.

It's a non-destructive editor, and keeps all the edits in the catalogue or in a sidecar file attached to your original. That means your files are not visible with the edits outside LR, unless you export them as JPG, TIFF etc. Your original DNGs should still be where you left them, but other apps will not 'see' the edits.

Edited December 24, 2019 by LocalHero1953

[Exodies]

One more time. The op is talking about Lightroom on the iPad.

the files are stored in the cloud. There isn’t a concept of moving them around. You can create albums but they are just lists of photos. In LR CC the files never move. There isn’t a folder system. The cloud is not visible from outside Lightroom CC. There are no sidecars. It’s not a file system. 

[LocalHero1953]

I knew that.

But I forgot.