corganb Posted December 9, 2019 Share #1 Posted December 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do any of the Leica gurus know if its at all possible to use an R-Only Summicron with the SL2 Leicaflex camera body? Any adapters or modifications available in the modern era? kind regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted December 9, 2019 Share #2 Posted December 9, 2019 Why not? The cams won't activate anything on the camera. No need to buy an expensive Leica adapter in this case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted December 10, 2019 Share #3 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, corganb said: Do any of the Leica gurus know if its at all possible to use an R-Only Summicron with the SL2 Leicaflex camera body? Any adapters or modifications available in the modern era? The bayonet was designed on purpose to not fit on a Leicaflex. It would be easier and probably cheaper to sell it and buy a 3 cam version. Edited December 10, 2019 by Leicaiste Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corganb Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted December 10, 2019 I see, I probably need an Elmarit lens for my SL2. Do you know if 2 and 3 cam will work on the Sl2? thanks for the advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted December 10, 2019 Share #5 Posted December 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, corganb said: I see, I probably need an Elmarit lens for my SL2. Do you know if 2 and 3 cam will work on the Sl2? thanks for the advice. Yes they will. I use both on mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corganb Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted December 10, 2019 Excellent news. I'm now one step closer... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #7 Posted December 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) In general: 2-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL and Leicaflex SL2 3-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL, Leicaflex SL2 and Leica R cameras R-only, will not fit Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL or Leicaflex SL2, only to be used on Leica R cameras. Three cam lenses are the "best" in terms of usabillity if you have both Leicaflex and Leica R. For digital it does not matter althought the later ROM-models are nice to have because also focal lenght information is transfered (for Leica SL and SL2) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, jaapv said: Why not? The cams won't activate anything on the camera. No need to buy an expensive Leica adapter in this case. Mixing up Leicaflex SL with digital Leica SL ;)?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 10, 2019 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mmx_2 said: Mixing up Leicaflex SL with digital Leica SL ;)?! Indeed I was The OP mentioning adapters put me on the vwrong track. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 10, 2019 Share #10 Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, mmx_2 said: In general: 2-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL and Leicaflex SL2 3-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL, Leicaflex SL2 and Leica R cameras R-only, will not fit Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL or Leicaflex SL2, only to be used on Leica R cameras. Three cam lenses are the "best" in terms of usabillity if you have both Leicaflex and Leica R. For digital it does not matter althought the later ROM-models are nice to have because also focal lenght information is transfered (for Leica SL and SL2) Good summary. Some additional notes: 1-cam works for all three Leicaflex, but with only stop-down metering for SL and SL2. Some 3-cam lenses (like R24/2.8 and R15/3.5 in my lens kit) only work on SL2 or later R bodies due to mirror interference on the Leicaflex and Leicaflex SL; the SL2 and later bodies had revised mirror actuation to solve this issue. I seem to recall that the R19/2.8 v2 is not compatible with Leicaflex and Leicaflex SL bodies as well, but I don't have access to one of them to test. R ROM-equpped lenses transfer data to Leica CL/T/TL/TL2, and Leica SL/SL2 automatically only when used with the R Adapter L. For R Adapter M stacked onto M Adapter L, you have to choose the suitable R lens profile and focal length information is not sensed if you're using an R zoom lens. (It's a question mark to me with regard to use with third party mount adapters ... I don't know that the R lens profiles are available with any of them, and I don't know whether the data is actually transferred to the raw files even if they are.) G 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted December 10, 2019 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2019 One more additional note: The 28/2.8 PC Super Angulon R lens has no aperture coupling, but has vestigial cams which enable it to be use on R cameras, as well as Leicaflex SL and SL2, but not the original Leicaflex. On R cameras, it can be used in aperture priority or manual exposure modes. (It has its own aperture stop down lever, which you operate after composition in the viewfinder, and before making the exposure.) In cases where it is necessary to select a lens manually from a menu (for example using a Leica R-M adapter) this lens doesn't have a menu entry, for good reasons. I find selecting a conventional 28/2.8 menu entry is the best you can do, and seems to work OK. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corganb Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) The lens I have is a vintage Summicron-R, but has no ROM contacts. It is a late model and is not compatible with the Leicaflex SL2 film camera sadly. Edited December 11, 2019 by corganb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted December 21, 2019 Share #13 Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 4:54 PM, ramarren said: R ROM-equiped lenses transfer data to Leica CL/T/TL/TL2, and Leica SL/SL2 automatically only when used with the R Adapter L. Except for the ROM x2 converter, At least it doesn't pass through the focal length x2 on the SL, which it did on the R8/R9 DMR. I don't know if it does on the new SL2. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted December 21, 2019 Share #14 Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, jpattison said: Except for the ROM x2 converter, At least it doesn't pass through the focal length x2 on the SL, which it did on the R8/R9 DMR. I don't know if it does on the new SL2. John No it doesn’t. But you can access the R lenses list and choose an equivalent lens in the list. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telyt Posted December 22, 2019 Share #15 Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 11:53 PM, mmx_2 said: In general: 2-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL and Leicaflex SL2 3-cam works for Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL, Leicaflex SL2 and Leica R cameras R-only, will not fit Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL or Leicaflex SL2, only to be used on Leica R cameras. Three cam lenses are the "best" in terms of usabillity if you have both Leicaflex and Leica R. For digital it does not matter althought the later ROM-models are nice to have because also focal lenght information is transfered (for Leica SL and SL2) In general, yes. However: Some 2- and 3-cam lenses protrude deeper into the mirror box than the Leicaflex and SL permit and have a Leicaflex SL2-compatible flange, and will not fit the earlier bodies. Some R-only lenses (the 50 'cron I had for example) were equipped with a Leicaflex-compatible bayonet and could be used on Leicaflexes with stop-down metering (SL and SL2) or without coupled metering (Leicaflex). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szurens Posted April 27, 2021 Share #16 Posted April 27, 2021 Hello from Poland. Sorry for my English. I have elmarit r 28/2,8 3cam and body SL2 sometimes I rewind the film to the next frame the mirror goes up. there is no rule. 5.6 8.11. in both bodies (I have 2 x sl2) damaged or not fit ??? thank you for the advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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