Michael R Posted October 15, 2019 Share #1 Posted October 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sadly, my Leica M10-P and 4 lenses were stolen in Los Angeles California, and I wanted you to have the items and serial numbers in case they are somehow sold to you. The thieves do not really appreciate what they have and I'm hoping time will be on my side. The items have been on eBay and the attached image is from their ad...... I have all receipts and serial #sand police report! Thank you for your help! Leica M10 P, black #5849339 50mm Summilux silver #04753690 90mm Summicron silver #3688728 35mm Summilux black #4721286 28mm Elmarit Black #11677 Leica Visoflex #18767 Leica Adapter #14652 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302426-my-leica-4-lenses-were-stolen/?do=findComment&comment=3836113'>More sharing options...
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Aperture 2 Posted October 18, 2019 Share #2 Posted October 18, 2019 The robbers have put an e-bay ad ? Can't the police recover them with that ? I suppose you can ask the web site for location and other data or I'm mistaken ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted October 18, 2019 Unfortunately, privacy keeps eBay from providing contact information. At this point the police can't seem to do anything which is pretty amazing. thanks for thinking about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted October 18, 2019 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2019 Hello Michael, Welcome to the Forum. I am sorry for your situation. Something does not seem correct here. You should also contact Leica in Wetzlar, Germany & explain this to them. Their contact information is on their Leica Camera Website. Given that you have your bills of sale, etc & that you have filed a Police Report: What reason do the Police give for not doing something? Hopefully your cameras & all else will be back safe & sound soon. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 18, 2019 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2019 Send an email to Leica with the serial numbers. If they ever get them for adjustment or repair they seize them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 18, 2019 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2019 Sorry to hear about your loss. Is there no way a complaint can be filed against eBay? Or at least tell cops that the items are on eBay so that they can investigate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted October 18, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've done everything I can, including registering both with Leica and other websites that track stolen items. I am working with the police – thanks for all the posts. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted October 18, 2019 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2019 Wow, that sucks! I hope you get everything back. How were they stolen in the first place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted October 18, 2019 Backpack, some smart criminal grabbed it when I was distracted getting other items out of the car. Don't blink your eyes – guy probably felt like he won the lottery, hope he fell down and bumped his head Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted October 18, 2019 Share #10 Posted October 18, 2019 Found the items on Ebay - I tried (as you no doubt have) but it doesn't seem possible to post a publicly viewable question/feedback etc to call them out as stolen........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted October 18, 2019 Share #11 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael R said: Unfortunately, privacy keeps eBay from providing contact information. At this point the police can't seem to do anything which is pretty amazing. thanks for thinking about it So the bottom feeders that run ebay would rather protect a criminal than assist a victim of theft, huh? Absolutely amazing. Given the dollar amount involved, this is felony theft. I am not an attorney, but it seems that ebay could face obstruction of justice and accomplice after the fact charges, or at least be sued in a civil litigation. Perhaps seeking legal counsel would be a good idea. Is your equipment insured? Edited October 18, 2019 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted October 18, 2019 Share #12 Posted October 18, 2019 I’m on EBay UK and I can’t find the listing through the worldwide filter, but if you can see the listing, scroll down to “About the Seller” then select “report this item” and complete the form. Ebay can and do remove the auction at the very least. I used to regularly report fraudulent auctions that broke Ebay rules and would probably have resulted in financial loss to the successful bidder. Those auctions are uncommon now, but you should get the auction removed. good luck. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted October 18, 2019 Share #13 Posted October 18, 2019 @Herr Barnack Ebay may actually be working behind the scenes to resolve this. They have a clear interest in not being involved directly or indirectly in criminal activity. But they're probably not going to discuss it while an investigation is pending. I was unwittingly involved in some Ebay fraud years ago. Someone used a stolen paypal account to purchase a lens of mine. Ebay was initially cagey, but did communicate and help out once it was clear I didn't do anything wrong. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted October 18, 2019 Share #14 Posted October 18, 2019 The FBI couldn’t get access to Apple’s security protocols for the iPhone to track terrorists post 911. The local police will fair much worse with eBay I suspect. What a shame to have your gear stolen. Keeping my fingers crossed for a miracle for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted October 18, 2019 Share #15 Posted October 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, andyturk said: @Herr Barnack Ebay may actually be working behind the scenes to resolve this. They have a clear interest in not being involved directly or indirectly in criminal activity. But they're probably not going to discuss it while an investigation is pending. I was unwittingly involved in some Ebay fraud years ago. Someone used a stolen paypal account to purchase a lens of mine. Ebay was initially cagey, but did communicate and help out once it was clear I didn't do anything wrong. Yes. The sale listing has disappeared, but there is no sign of a completed auction, so Ebay may have removed it to investigate and avoid further fraud. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted October 18, 2019 Share #16 Posted October 18, 2019 I hope you were insured. If you were insured your insurer would be rattling police and eBay to nail the suspects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Miranda Posted October 19, 2019 Share #17 Posted October 19, 2019 this is upsetting to me, yet another platform company, be it EBay, FB, Twitter, YouTube suggesting they have zero control of content, they ‘just’ provide the platform, profit from it, but cant be responsible for users’ actions. As an Ebay buyer/seller, tempting to register complaint that this is not acceptable and drives my business elsewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted October 19, 2019 Share #18 Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) I hope that you had insurance on your gear. I have about $60k in Leica M10 bodies, and SL body, SL zooms and M primes. I have all items scheduled on a separate insurance policy added to my homeowner's insurance. It costs be about $500 a year, but worth the peace of mind. The policy covers theft, accident and drops (operate inflicted). Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. Edited October 19, 2019 by budjames 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 19, 2019 Share #19 Posted October 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, budjames said: I have all items scheduled on a separate insurance policy added to my homeowner's insurance. It costs be about $500 a year, but worth the peace of mind. The policy covers theft, accident and drops (operate inflicted). Ditto. Peace of mind 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted October 19, 2019 Share #20 Posted October 19, 2019 Ebay is useless, I recently had a buyer use the forced return policy to steal a lens. eBay just sides with buyer. I have filed the case with Police but since its in Hong Kong I doubt anything will ever happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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