ropo54 Posted September 15, 2019 Share #1 Posted September 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Excuse my ignorance, and perhaps there is a simple technical explanation, but why does Leica not allow an adaptation so that M lenses may be used on the S system? I see that Fuji's GFX system and the Hasselblad X1D have accommodated M lenses. (See Frame-It's posts on the SL forum where he has posted some terrific M50 Summilux snaps taken with the GFX). Thanks. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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albireo_double Posted September 15, 2019 Share #2 Posted September 15, 2019 Flange distance much shorter in mirrorless cameras? GFX no mirror, Leica S a DSLR, i.e. lenses need "room" to accommodate the mirror... I am no expert but this is what comes up first on my mind. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted September 15, 2019 Share #3 Posted September 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, albireo_double said: Flange distance much shorter in mirrorless cameras? GFX no mirror, Leica S a DSLR, i.e. lenses need "room" to accommodate the mirror... I am no expert but this is what comes up first on my mind. Exactly! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted September 15, 2019 So . . . why not incorporate a medium format sensor into a SL-like mirrorless body? Is that not the inevitable future if Leica is to stay in medium format? I presume that profits come from the number of lenses sold, more so than the number of bodies. Why not enlarge the lens options (and portability)? Why not the L lenses too with a medium format sensor? It certainly seems that Leica's competitors are headed in that direction. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #5 Posted September 15, 2019 i have to say..except for the extreme corners, which i don't care about anyway..the 50lux is delicious on the GFX..and super sharp once Ive had my correct dose of coffee 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted September 15, 2019 Share #6 Posted September 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, ropo54 said: So . . . why not incorporate a medium format sensor into a SL-like mirrorless body? Is that not the inevitable future if Leica is to stay in medium format? I presume that profits come from the number of lenses sold, more so than the number of bodies. Why not enlarge the lens options (and portability)? Why not the L lenses too with a medium format sensor? It certainly seems that Leica's competitors are headed in that direction. I don't know the technicals at all, but, IIRC, Dr.Kaufmann said the S will remain a dSLR for its next iteration, but perhaps not after that. Certainly the most modern M lenses can resolve to sensors approaching 100 mps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #7 Posted September 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) i plan to try the 50 summilux asph on the GFX100 next time i go to the fuji shop 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted September 15, 2019 Share #8 Posted September 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, ropo54 said: So . . . why not incorporate a medium format sensor into a SL-like mirrorless body? There are already many options on that front. None of them do what the S does well (speed, weather resistance, autonomy, gorgeous viewfinder). It may happen some day, but not now. Leica has also indicated that the available technology isn't there yet to make a medium format mirrorless that is as fast as the SL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 15, 2019 Share #9 Posted September 15, 2019 The S system, Leica’s sole MF product, does seem at a crossroads. Whether it continues in its current DSLR form (where is the S3?), evolves into mirrorless, or dies off is unclear. And how the SL proceeds, including format options, also remains to be seen. Interesting times not just for Leica, but for the industry as a whole. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #10 Posted September 15, 2019 pity they cant put the 37MP MF sensor in the SL2, and make the S3 64MP mirrorless with a monochom option Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted September 15, 2019 Share #11 Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, frame-it said: i have to say..except for the extreme corners, which i don't care about anyway..the 50lux is delicious on the GFX..and super sharp once Ive had my correct dose of coffee My experience of the same combo was quite different. Focused close to or at infinity, it barely illuminated the corners and definitely didn't resolve well close to the edges (not that I expected it to). I don't have the files anymore but I remember this well. But for portraits or close-ups I suspect it's okay. Edited September 15, 2019 by alan.y 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #12 Posted September 15, 2019 Fuji GFX50R + Leica 50mm Summilux-M ASPH ACROS-RED Jpg from Camera..cropped F11, ISO 100, 1/500th, FULL 8256x6192 resized to 1280 for the forum...i see only the extreme corners with a bit of a vignette problem Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301518-why-no-m-lenses-on-leica-s-system/?do=findComment&comment=3820795'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #13 Posted September 15, 2019 Fuji GFX50R + Leica 50mm Summilux-M ASPH ACROS-RED Jpg from Camera..cropped F11, ISO 100, 1/500th, FULL 8256x6192 resized to 1280 for the forum, shadow lift Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301518-why-no-m-lenses-on-leica-s-system/?do=findComment&comment=3820796'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 15, 2019 Share #14 Posted September 15, 2019 Fuji GFX50R + Leica 50mm Summilux-M ASPH ACROS-RED Jpg from Camera..cropped F11, ISO 100, 1/500th, resized to 1280 for the forum and a bit of cropping [4x5/8x10] to > 7222x5778 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301518-why-no-m-lenses-on-leica-s-system/?do=findComment&comment=3820798'>More sharing options...
alan.y Posted September 16, 2019 Share #15 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Thanks. That looks good even though cropped to 5:4. Do you also have one in color and at f/4 or something? Edited September 16, 2019 by alan.y Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 16, 2019 Share #16 Posted September 16, 2019 thanks, its the office building of a very famous architect "Tadao Ando" ill have to look carefully shot over 2000 pics in 3 days and no Aperture data, i only noted down at some specific locations..i think the adapter is very important too..i use the novoflex : https://www.novoflex.de/en/products-637/lens-adapters//adapterfinder-products/fuji-g-mount-mirrorless/adapter-leica-m-lenses-to-fuji-g-mount-cameras.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 16, 2019 Share #17 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, alan.y said: Thanks. That looks good even though cropped to 5:4. Do you also have one in color and at f/4 or something? Fuji GFX50R + Leica 50mm Summilux-M ASPH ACROS-RED Jpg from Camera Between f4 and f8, ISO 125, 1/500th, FULL 8256x6192 resized to 1280 for the forum. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 16, 2019 by frame-it 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301518-why-no-m-lenses-on-leica-s-system/?do=findComment&comment=3820838'>More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted September 16, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 16, 2019 I think the smallest lens you can use on the Leica S system is the Pentax 645 A 75mm. It works great (manual focus only). The Pentax 645 A 35mm is a great performer so my travel kit is both of these little lenses. Mark P.S. Fotodiox makes a Leica L39 Visoflex adapter but I can't get my head around what's needed to use that set up! https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/lens-mount-adapters/products/l39-viso-ls-pro Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301518-why-no-m-lenses-on-leica-s-system/?do=findComment&comment=3821031'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted September 16, 2019 Mark, Which adapter you do use to accommodate the Pentax 645 lens on your S? Thanks, Rob 22 minutes ago, Sarnian said: I think the smallest lens you can use on the Leica S system is the Pentax 645 A 75mm. It works great (manual focus only). The Pentax 645 A 35mm is a great performer so my travel kit is both of these little lenses. Mark P.S. Fotodiox makes a Leica L39 Visoflex adapter but I can't get my head around what's needed to use that set up! https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/lens-mount-adapters/products/l39-viso-ls-pro Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted September 16, 2019 Share #20 Posted September 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, ropo54 said: Mark, Which adapter you do use to accommodate the Pentax 645 lens on your S? Thanks, Rob Hi Rob, From reading a thread on here ip’s (William) did the legwork for me and a clever person in Hong Kong custom machined it. Really good quality and the lenses fit perfectly with zero play or wobble. I’m getting the same quality with the lenses that I previously used on my Pentax 645Z. That might not mean Leica quality but being able to put a 35mm AND a 75mm lens in a small camera bag is very liberating. I’ve also used the Pentax FA 33-55mm (in manual focus mode). Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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