wlaidlaw Posted September 5, 2019 Share #41 Posted September 5, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica has a track record of breaking the GPS with a firmware update. They did this on the M240 multi-function grip GPS, where they made the position auto-delete after the camera had been on for 5 minutes but it often took 6 or 7 minutes for a position lock to be obtained, which was then automatically wiped before another lock could be obtained. I was beta testing the firmware and advised them of this problem during the beta phase but it still was released. It then took close to two years to correct the error to change the auto-delete of previous position to 3 hours. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loretdem Posted September 5, 2019 Share #42 Posted September 5, 2019 Is there any way to confirm the firmware version on the M10-D? Perhaps in the FOTOS app? Or in the EXIF metadata in the DNGs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted September 5, 2019 Share #43 Posted September 5, 2019 Installation with no problems (as always). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted September 5, 2019 Share #44 Posted September 5, 2019 In addition to my already above mentioned experience of the M10-D/Visoflex 020 let me give you an update - I took my equipment to the Leica Store Frankfurt/Germany today, following is the result, confirmed by the staff, who paid a lot of attention and time: 1) My M10-D and my Visoflex do not support the GPS function - only the satellite symbol with the x mark was visible, as I explained before. 2) My M10-D, combined with a brand new Visoflex from the shelf gave the same result - no GPS functionality. 3) My Visoflex with a M10-D from the store again did not deliver a GPS function. I am afraid, there is really a lot left left at Leica's side to improve this unfortunate situation. The Leica store will call me back tomorrow after consultation with Leica Wetzlar, I keep you informed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraxisPictures Posted September 5, 2019 Share #45 Posted September 5, 2019 Is there any point installing this update if you never use the LeicaFoto App? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 5, 2019 Share #46 Posted September 5, 2019 That's why I took out a gps which has a diagnostic screen that lists the satellites that it can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnl Posted September 5, 2019 Share #47 Posted September 5, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) flawless installation on my m10. Visoflex shows GPS and is accurately depicted in Lightroom. Fotos works with iPhone. M10 Wireless Transfer 1.1 works with Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 5, 2019 Share #48 Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, PraxisPictures said: Is there any point installing this update if you never use the LeicaFoto App? The announcement notes:General software improvements for operating stability. None of the other "improvements" affect the way I use it, and I don't have stability issues, so I'll pass on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loretdem Posted September 5, 2019 Share #49 Posted September 5, 2019 FYI my M10-D works perfectly with my Visoflex 020, including GPS functionality. Once outdoors, it picked up the GPS signal within a few minutes. I would still like to know how to confirm the firmware version number on my M10-D. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 5, 2019 Share #50 Posted September 5, 2019 I confirm the firmware version that I installed by taking a picture and checking in the EXIF. The "info" button on Capture One pulls that out. I'm sure Lightroom also have a way to do it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 5, 2019 Share #51 Posted September 5, 2019 vor 13 Minuten schrieb loretdem: I would still like to know how to confirm the firmware version number on my M10-D. Have a look at the image meta data using your preferred image viewer or image processing software ... or ExifTool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted September 5, 2019 Share #52 Posted September 5, 2019 GPS is suspect the further north or south of the equator you go. In the UK a Garmin tracker can take ages to find a satellite. A fat chance for my Leica to pick up a signal. GPS is like everything else in the modern world ... costly but often useless. It sends 32 tonne lorries down very narrow lanes where they get stuck and it takes days to get them out. It sends people to drive up railway tracks. It is far from being useful because of its faults. The environmental impact of firing rockets into space to deliver the hardware needs to be considered too. Am I bothered? No, I know exactly where I am at all times. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loretdem Posted September 6, 2019 Share #53 Posted September 6, 2019 Thank you Scott Kirkpatrick and 01af. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 6, 2019 Share #54 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Peter Kilmister said: GPS is suspect the further north or south of the equator you go. [...] There is also the remarkable GPS which works through tower locations (AGPS). That's what your smart phone uses with great success. Why it is not used by Leica is beyond me. Edited September 6, 2019 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted September 6, 2019 Share #55 Posted September 6, 2019 As a reference. Just checked my M10 v2.7.5.0 + Visoflex 020 GPS connection time from turning on the camera until the satellite symbol appears on Live View. 1. First attempt after not using the Visoflex for several days; just under two minutes to connect 2. After the initial connection I turned off/on M10 several times and GPS reconnected between nine to thirteen seconds to connect each 3. Turned off the camera and took off the Visoflex. Waited 45 mins. Re attached the Visoflex and turned on the camera; about 10 seconds for the GPS to connect 4. Checked EXIF on the test frames and the GPS was indeed working and displayed in EXIF test images 5. Took off the Visoflex, took out the battery and waited about 15 mins. Installed battery and Visoflex turned on the M10 and GPS started about ten seconds to connect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajamies Posted September 6, 2019 Share #56 Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, LBJ2 said: As a reference. Just checked my M10 v2.7.5.0 + Visoflex 020 GPS connection time from turning on the camera until the satellite symbol appears on Live View. 1. First attempt after not using the Visoflex for several days; just under two minutes to connect 2. After the initial connection I turned off/on M10 several times and GPS reconnected between nine to thirteen seconds to connect each 3. Turned off the camera and took off the Visoflex. Waited 45 mins. Re attached the Visoflex and turned on the camera; about 10 seconds for the GPS to connect 4. Checked EXIF on the test frames and the GPS was indeed working and displayed in EXIF test images 5. Took off the Visoflex, took out the battery and waited about 15 mins. Installed battery and Visoflex turned on the M10 and GPS started about ten seconds to connect. I guess the satellite coverage is essentially smaller here, beyond 60th latitude than at Florida latitudes (?25), and therefore the Visoflex gets the GPS signal at your place but not mine. But it is good to know that the Visoflex GPS works, somewhere. The GPS not working is no big deal. Most of the time I, too, know where I am. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted September 6, 2019 Share #57 Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, pico said: There is also the remarkable GPS which works through tower locations (AGPS). That's what your smart phone uses with great success. Why it is not used by Leica is beyond me. Because then it would need a GSM radio and SIM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 6, 2019 Share #58 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) The SL's GPS works just fine in the UK. The older M240's on the MF Grip is far more flaky. I just checked the photos I took at a British Sports car meet in the south of France last week-end. I had a GPS position on around 50% of the images I took Wilson Edited September 6, 2019 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted September 6, 2019 Share #59 Posted September 6, 2019 9 hours ago, pajamies said: I guess the satellite coverage is essentially smaller here, beyond 60th latitude than at Florida latitudes (?25), and therefore the Visoflex gets the GPS signal at your place but not mine. But it is good to know that the Visoflex GPS works, somewhere. The GPS not working is no big deal. Most of the time I, too, know where I am. Have you tried traveling out of your local area for GPS connection? Also are you working with the M10 + Visoflex 020? Personally, I really like the Visoflex 020. It helps me extend my work flow beyond the shooting limitations of the camera's RF and fixed eye piece and fixed LCD screen when using Live View. The fact that I can connect or disconnect quickly is very helpful too. The Visoflex is so small its easy to take along and slip into any bag or pocket. GPS is just icing on the cake too bad it is not working for some and I know for many GPS is not much more than a nice-to-have when it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted September 6, 2019 Share #60 Posted September 6, 2019 vor 20 Stunden schrieb AndreasG: The Leica store will call me back tomorrow after consultation with Leica Wetzlar, I keep you informed. They informed me today that I get a replacement Visoflex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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