M8 and Elmarit 2,8/24 asph

[lightpainter]

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this lens (non-coded) is gradually turning into my favourite lens on the M8; you don't have to take an extra finder, and 2,8 is a stop that fits most outdoor occasions; indoors, I prefer the 1,4/35 aspherical or the Nocti; this example was taken last night at sunset on a late walk near my home; I wonder if the coding would really improve its performance; this is a crop from the RAW original, but even with the RAW pics of this lens I cannot see considerable problemsof vignetting

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[jaapv]

A very nice image; the colour shift in the greens by IR is indeed visible, but in this case it enhances the atmosphere; your post is interesting. In your hands this lens works beautifully, I sold mine as I could not get to grips with the focal length.

[lars_bergquist]

I second Jaap's opinion. But I cannot understand his problems with the focal length; the 24 is really equivalent to a 32mm lens on a FF camera – a very modest wide angle indeed, and the reason why I see no use for it, between the 28 and the 21 mm lengths.

 

The old man from the Age of 10.5cm lenses (on roll-film folders, natch ...)

[wparsonsgisnet]

Heiner, I'm with you. The more I use this magical lens the more I like it.

 

Unless I need speed, it is the lens that usually sits on the M8. The images have a warm and inviting detail that *even* other Leica lenses can't quite match.

 

Nice image. A very satisfying composition with lots of movement in it.

[dpattinson]

I've been using the 24/2.8 quite a lot as a street lens. Initially I thought I'd have to go and buy a 28 for that purpose, but I'm liking the 24 more and more as I go along.

I rarely used the lens on my film leicas, but it makes a very nice 'wide 35' on the M8.

[Jamie Roberts]

I just love this lens as well.

 

I just shot a wedding with a DMR, an M8 and a 5d. The DMR had the 50 R lux and the 80 R lux; the 5d had the 70-200 on it (and the 80R lux), and for 99% of all my M8 shots I used the 24 Elmarit.

 

It's an outstanding lens, and a great focal length for social photography on the M8. My only problem is that I use the magnifier, and it always makes me shoot a little "high" in the frame. I should have taken it off. D'oh!!

 

These are right out of the camera (you can see the cyan shift on the one shot), and I don't even mind the camera shake in the BW:

 

 

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[wparsonsgisnet]

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damn, you're tall!

[Jamie Roberts]

LOL!!! Yeah--I'm 6'3", and when I stand on a motel room chair, even taller

[michael_b_elmer]

this lens (non-coded) is gradually turning into my favourite lens on the M8; you don't have to take an extra finder, and 2,8 is a stop that fits most outdoor occasions; indoors, I prefer the 1,4/35 aspherical or the Nocti; this example was taken last night at sunset on a late walk near my home; I wonder if the coding would really improve its performance; this is a crop from the RAW original, but even with the RAW pics of this lens I cannot see considerable problemsof vignetting

I agree that the 24/2.8 asph is a most remarkable lens - since I got it, it has rarely left my M8 body, and it is certainly my favourite with this camera and this crop factor.

 

I do not feel the same way about the R 24/2.8 on R9 with the DMR - probably because the M and R 24 - lenses are different in design and quality.

 

In my opinion, the M 24/2.8 asph is above or at least on the same level as the 35/1.4 asph, the 50/1.0 and the 75/1.4 - and together these lenses make an outstanding outfit for the M8.

 

I also have the M 28-2.0 asph, the 35/2.0 asph, the 50/1.4, the 50/2.0 and the 90/2.8, but although they are excellent lenses, and I would not like to do without them, they are not in the same league as the first mentioned lenses.

 

So, I think everybody on this thread until now can wholeheartedly subscribe to the highest possible praise of the M 24/2.8 asph.

[robertwright]

while I don't have the elmarit, I have the zeiss 25, and it is my "bodycap" lens. The crop factor has a chameleon effect on lenses, while it should not "feel" wide by the nominal effective field of view of a 32mm lens, the way these lenses draw is still like a wide, and so it works much wider than you think. Mine is not coded yet either, and the cyan drift is not too bad in the day to day, I expect on tougher subjects it would be bothersome.

[innerimager]

As I've been saying elsewhere, the 24 elmarit is an incredibly beautiful image maker. I'm waiting for a filter, and will get it coded. Once done, I may need a 2nd M8 as I won't want to take it off! I manged to find a voigtlander 21D viewfinder which becomes a 32mm perfect for the 24 elmarit. With glasses, it's a bit hard to see the M8 24mm frame, but mostly the intrusion into the lower right frame by the lens with hood is annoying, so I find the viewfinder very helpful. Otherwise I'd use a regular 35mm finder. Actually, I have a brand new brightline 35mm finder from cameraquest that I don't need now that I got the 21D finder. Anyone wants it, let me know. ;>) best....Peter

[jaapv]

I second Jaap's opinion. But I cannot understand his problems with the focal length; the 24 is really equivalent to a 32mm lens on a FF camera – a very modest wide angle indeed, and the reason why I see no use for it, between the 28 and the 21 mm lengths.

 

The old man from the Age of 10.5cm lenses (on roll-film folders, natch ...)

 

 

I agree. It is indeed one of the finest drawing lenses around, and one of Leica's signature lenses. However I found that I reached for either the 21 or the 28 and that this one was used less and less. But I tip my hat to the posters on this thread. I love to be proved an excentric in this manner

[nerve]

As I've been saying elsewhere, the 24 elmarit is an incredibly beautiful image maker. I'm waiting for a filter, and will get it coded. Once done, I may need a 2nd M8 as I won't want to take it off! I manged to find a voigtlander 21D viewfinder which becomes a 32mm perfect for the 24 elmarit. With glasses, it's a bit hard to see the M8 24mm frame, but mostly the intrusion into the lower right frame by the lens with hood is annoying, so I find the viewfinder very helpful. Otherwise I'd use a regular 35mm finder. Actually, I have a brand new brightline 35mm finder from cameraquest that I don't need now that I got the 21D finder. Anyone wants it, let me know. ;>) best....Peter

 

Hi Peter,

 

do you mind if you tell me where you got your 21D Voigtlander viewfinder?

isnt this the one they sell it with the Color-Skopar 21mm f/4.0? generally or am i missing something?

 

Thanks in advance, cheers.

[stunsworth]

Evrin, the 'D' viewfinders were made by Voigtlander to be used on the Epson RD-1 and take that camera's crop factor into account. So the actual field of view was that of a 21 x 1.6 lens.

 

The viewfinder that ships as standard with the 21mm has a 21mm field of view.

[innerimager]

nerve- As I understand it, these were made for use with the Epson RD-1 digital RF. These have a 1.5 crop. I'm not sure which particular 21mm lens it meant to go with, it would work of course with any. As it works, a 1.5 crop on the 24mm, gives an almost exact 32mm that we need on the 1.3 crop M8. Cameraquest sold these, but they are no longer made and they are out. I posted my interest on the Rangefinder forum as well as here and a fellow in England had one he didn't need. Best....Peter

[erl]

I certainly concur with the praise of the 24/2.8 on the M8. It is a close 2nd to the Noctilux as my favourite 'street' lens. The attached pic was shot earlier today at the 50the birthday party of the local Op Shop, associated with the the local church. I got this pic of a 95yr old past worker in the shop being greeted by the Arch Bishop of the church.

 

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24/2.8 1250ISO with -2/3 stop compensation.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

The one missing lens in the bag. Hate this thread:D

[innerimager]

but the thread, and lens, loves you Guy. ;>)

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[Pham Minh Son]

I agree that the 24/2.8 asph is a most remarkable lens - since I got it, it has rarely left my M8 body, and it is certainly my favourite with this camera and this crop factor.

 

I do not feel the same way about the R 24/2.8 on R9 with the DMR - probably because the M and R 24 - lenses are different in design and quality.

 

In my opinion, the M 24/2.8 asph is above or at least on the same level as the 35/1.4 asph, the 50/1.0 and the 75/1.4 - and together these lenses make an outstanding outfit for the M8.

 

I also have the M 28-2.0 asph, the 35/2.0 asph, the 50/1.4, the 50/2.0 and the 90/2.8, but although they are excellent lenses, and I would not like to do without them, they are not in the same league as the first mentioned lenses.

 

So, I think everybody on this thread until now can wholeheartedly subscribe to the highest possible praise of the M 24/2.8 asph.

 

I am new to the M8 and the RF for that matter. My first lens is the Noctilux and it has been sitting on the mount since I got it. I had a hard time deciding between the 50 lux and the Noctilux but I am glad that I made the Noctilux choice. I also consider the 75 lux and 35 lux and 28 Cron as the potential lenses. The one lens that I am not sure is the 24 elmarit and I am glad to see love for this lens here. I also see that this lens is advantagge for folks who do wedding which is one of my favorite photography and for tight spaces a nice wide angle lens is important with flash. However, without using flash such as in the RF system I can see myself using a super wide angle on the M8.

 

I had the chance to run some tests yesterday with the Noctilux on the M8 versus the DMR with the 35 and P20 on the Rollei with the 80 QPS and I have to say the M8 + the Noctilux resolving power was very impressive. I will post the data later on when I get the chance to set up my website. Does anyone recommend using your own website to serve the image so you can present nice view? I find the max upload image size allow here to be too small to view.

 

Also the image is very beautiful from the original post of this thread and thanks for sharing it; it is definitely a stimulus for purchase of this lens.

 

Regards,

-Son

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