brunner Posted December 5, 2019 Share #161 Posted December 5, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) @Alan FriedmanThank you for the picture and comment, Alan. So the viewfinders measures around 10 cm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan Friedman Posted December 5, 2019 Share #162 Posted December 5, 2019 3 hours ago, brunner said: @Alan FriedmanThank you for the picture and comment, Alan. So the viewfinders measures around 10 cm? I can measure when I get home later. It is supplied with the small mounting plate, which works fine. I believe it can also attach to the bottom plate on the large hand grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 6, 2019 Share #163 Posted December 6, 2019 A version like a waist level finder to view from above would be nice. So the VF would not reach so much to the back. Now the FP becomes a telescope… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 6, 2019 Share #164 Posted December 6, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 9:52 AM, brunner said: @Alan FriedmanThank you for the picture and comment, Alan. So the viewfinders measures around 10 cm? You guess is right on... the viewfinder extends 95mm from the back of the camera. With the mounting plate, it adds 277 grams to the total weight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 6, 2019 Share #165 Posted December 6, 2019 Almost finished... need to set and trim the registration pin and polish up. Think I'll cancel my open order for the HG-11 grip. I like this one a lot. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299161-sigma-fp-%E2%80%93-worlds-smallest-lightest-mirrorless-full-frame-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3868672'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted December 6, 2019 Share #166 Posted December 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Alan Friedman said: Almost finished... need to set and trim the registration pin and polish up. Think I'll cancel my open order for the HG-11 grip. I like this one a lot. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is this wheel the chef-d'oeuvre dial? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 6, 2019 Share #167 Posted December 6, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said: Is this wheel the chef-d'oeuvre dial? Just a bit of providence... a miscellaneous tripod piece that I found floating around in a box of spare parts. It has a 1/4 x 20 projection and is tapped for 1/4 x 20 on the face as well, so I can attach the camera strap lug without having to make and thread a new hole. It also has a wide bearing surface when tightened down so it makes a nice secure connection. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunner Posted December 6, 2019 Share #168 Posted December 6, 2019 @Alan FriedmanThank you for the measurement! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 8, 2019 Share #169 Posted December 8, 2019 Finished... now time to take some pictures. ;^) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299161-sigma-fp-%E2%80%93-worlds-smallest-lightest-mirrorless-full-frame-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3869416'>More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 8, 2019 Share #170 Posted December 8, 2019 Well done! i am curious to see the results. Which M-Lens did you mount on the camera? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 8, 2019 Share #171 Posted December 8, 2019 6 hours ago, verwackelt said: Well done! i am curious to see the results. Which M-Lens did you mount on the camera? Thanks... it was a fun project. Cancelling my order for the HG-11 from B&H. ;^) The FP is a nice fit with all of my M lenses, which are Summicrons and Elmarits - 28, 35, 50, 90. It is also very well suited for the more compact R lenses. I bought the R to M adapter when it first came out but then opted for the direct R-L adapter when I purchased the SL. It is nice to make use of the older adapter with the macro-elmarit 60, which is a nice lightweight lens for portraits. I've posted a few examples on the image thread. I also have a Nikkor-L adapter which I will use from time to time with the Nikon 35 1.4 and 58 1.2 Noct-Nikkor. I think the FP is a nice body to have for travel with shorter lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 8, 2019 Share #172 Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 8, 2019 by Alan Friedman 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299161-sigma-fp-%E2%80%93-worlds-smallest-lightest-mirrorless-full-frame-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3869816'>More sharing options...
jankap Posted December 9, 2019 Share #173 Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) vor 14 Stunden schrieb Alan Friedman: Thanks... it was a fun project. Cancelling my order for the HG-11 from B&H. ;^) The FP is a nice fit with all of my M lenses, which are Summicrons and Elmarits - 28, 35, 50, 90. What do you think about a thin filter conversion? Is something known about the sensor glass? See https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62874037 I like the outcome of your "project" very much! Edited December 9, 2019 by jankap dpreview added Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 9, 2019 Share #174 Posted December 9, 2019 Are the coverglasses of the sensor changeable? Never heard of it… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted December 9, 2019 Share #175 Posted December 9, 2019 I meant the conversion by Kolari Vision. They offer for a lot of cameras a "surgery" to install a very thin filter, that can increase the IQ of (wide) rangefinder lenses. I am unshure, if that is an advantage for the fp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 9, 2019 Share #176 Posted December 9, 2019 Thank you, that is interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Friedman Posted December 9, 2019 Share #177 Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, jankap said: I meant the conversion by Kolari Vision. They offer for a lot of cameras a "surgery" to install a very thin filter, that can increase the IQ of (wide) rangefinder lenses. I am unshure, if that is an advantage for the fp. Interesting post, thanks for sharing it. I would guess we will see more definitive tests of the performance of the FP with wide angle M lenses. I looked quickly and thought the results were good with the 35 summicron. I didn't notice significant edge of field aberration with the 28mm or with my 25mm Zeiss Contarex but I didn't study analytically. For me, the Sigma FP is of specific use as a lightweight and compact "take with" solution to the much heavier Leica SL and hopefully a good reason to leave my iPhone 11 pro in my pocket. ;^) As such, I will enjoy what it does well and live with what it does not so well. I am really not looking for edge to edge razor sharpness in my images though I know that others have a different work flow and will be more demanding. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 9, 2019 Share #178 Posted December 9, 2019 I would hesitate do do such a heart surgery on a new camera because one will loss the camera manufacturers warranty. Although it is temptating if the before and after pics on the kolari website are not faked… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted December 9, 2019 Share #179 Posted December 9, 2019 There photos are not faked - I took many of them while working with them to develop the original Sony A-series modifications. Also, those mods have been pretty extensively tested and reviewed since introduction in (was it?) 2016. Google is your friend. There are some hints that the Sigma might have a thinner stack than the Sony, so might do better in the factory state. This seems to also be true for the Nikon Z6 and Z7, which people report fairly good results with RF lenses. I have no experience with either of these, but still use my modified A7 as a backup to my M10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted December 9, 2019 Share #180 Posted December 9, 2019 thank you for correcting my suspicions, but i never heard of them before. The reason for that might be because it is a US company and i am not so familar with english only websites. But i am on the way to improve my english with help of the forums international section... The FP is a new camera so i am keen on the results with shorter RF lenses and if a modification would make sense… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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