cbretteville Posted June 19, 2019 Share #1 Posted June 19, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) All, Looking at the 70-200 for use primarily on the CL, but also on the SL. Can someone in the collective share their experiences? I'd like to have something longer than my 135/3.4 APO for shooting events like air shows. thanks! Carl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Hi cbretteville, Take a look here Panasonic 70-200 on the CL (and SL) - experiences anyone?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted June 19, 2019 Share #2 Posted June 19, 2019 Same here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2019 Share #3 Posted June 23, 2019 Apart for being quite unbalanced. It works flawlessly with CL. OIS works also. It also has a nice pop down focusing ring. Arca Swiss tripod collar is also a nice touch. AF is fast, but not as fast as with a proper LUMIX S1 body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 23, 2019 Share #4 Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Build quality is nowhere near Leica SL zoom lenses one. But for half the price of APO-Vario-Elmarit-SL 90-280mm, you can get both f/4 Lumix S 24-105mm and S Pro 70-200mm. Both lens will be lighter than the sole APO-Vario-Elmarit-SL 90-280mm S Pro 70-200mm is certified by Leica. Whatever that means for you. Anyway IQ is very nice. Edited June 23, 2019 by nicci78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 24, 2019 Share #5 Posted June 24, 2019 The main problem with the 70-200 is the overlap with the TL 55-135. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) On 6/24/2019 at 1:09 PM, jaapv said: The main problem with the 70-200 is the overlap with the TL 55-135. @jaapvHad I had a 55-135 I would agree. Unfortunately there is nothing from Leica in the longer range (100-300) so I guess it will be the Pana. Thanks @nicci78 For the insight. I'll live with the imbalance and the power usage. Edited June 25, 2019 by cbretteville Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 27, 2019 Share #7 Posted June 27, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you also have an SL, Lumix S Pro 70-200 is a nice choice. No more imbalance and high power usage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensun1234 Posted June 30, 2019 Share #8 Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 4:18 PM, cbretteville said: @jaapvHad I had a 55-135 I would agree. Unfortunately there is nothing from Leica in the longer range (100-300) so I guess it will be the Pana. Thanks @nicci78 For the insight. I'll live with the imbalance and the power usage. I'm going to tanzania next month and am debating getting one of these two lenses for my TL2 (the 55-135 or the 70-200). I haven't yet decided which, but let me know what you think of the 70-200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 30, 2019 Share #9 Posted June 30, 2019 Very simple - both are short for Safari work. The 70-200 might just give you enough reach in quite a few situations, but don't expect to get birds and tightly-framed shots. I would advise getting either a DSLR with a really long zoom+extender ( The Canon 100-400 (2nd version) + 1.4x converter for instance, or a Canon APS with the 100-400, or - and that is my preference- a used Panasonic GX8 (they are out of production and the GX9 lacks size and weight) with the Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400. It has given me brilliant results. Forget about the 55-135. Last year in Botswana I used it for no more than 10% of my Safari shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Griffin Posted July 10, 2019 Share #10 Posted July 10, 2019 Sensun 1234: For Africa a 400mm is minimum and a matched set of teleconverters. Rent what you need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted August 17, 2019 Share #11 Posted August 17, 2019 In my experience, the Canon 100-400 doesn’t pair well with the 1,4 extender. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted August 18, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 18, 2019 200 x 1.5x crop x 2.0 extender = 600mm 😉 Honestly though, for the Safari, you'd be better off renting a RX10 IV. Weather-sealed, excellent AF and video in a small package. You might even get animal eye-AF to track the running cheetah's LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 19, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 19, 2019 Have you ever been on safari? I have - yearly for over 30 years. Normally tourists go in the dry season. Weathersealing is moot: there is no rain. It is dusty, but it has never posed a problem to me. IMO the most practical package is a Panasonic/Olympus MFT camera with the DG Vario Elmar 100-400, provided the image quality is satisfactory to you (it is more than that for 95% of non-professional users) For animals 400 mm equ.is fine. Longer lenses will get you blurred images, even with IS. Heated air distortion will spoil the image. Unless you rent a private vehicle, forget about tripods. Even in a private vehicle, a bean bag is far better. Actually, forget about tripods altogether. Useless weight, which counts with a 15 kg luggage limit in small planes (hand luggage and camera gear included) The really long lenses are needed for birds, closeups and small stuff, like mice and shrews. That is where the long end of the VE comes in. As I said in my previous post, The 300 mm equ. you'll get with the Panasonic lens on the CL is rather on the short side, but will normally suffice for a first-timer. Your guide will get you quite close to the game when in a vehicle, whereas on foot you will not like dragging a full-frame 600 mm along in 40º, let alone use it hand-held. For Elephants you will need a 28 from time to time 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted August 19, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 19, 2019 No I haven't, but I still feel that renting a RX10 IV is a better choice than any of the ones you listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 19, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 19, 2019 From experience, I fear that I do not agree. It would probably do a decent job, but I see no advantage. AF is of limited use, for instance. As it cannot handle fur, it is too slow to select the proper focus point compared to manual focus. You'll still be tapping the LCD whilst the animal has gone. There will often be grass or branches in front of your subject that it will pick up. On top of that, who wants to be seen using a Sony? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzX Posted September 14, 2019 Share #16 Posted September 14, 2019 I have read in this thread, that the lens does work together with the CL. I am interested to know, if the lens plus the new 2 ply Panasonic converter is can be used together with the CL too - apart from ergonomic problems. If it is possible, this would result in a angle of a 600 mm tele equ. FF and a aperture of 8.0 but with OIS. With the 90/280 which I have - only 420 mm are possible. And with the coming Panasonic 70- 200 2.8 the result would be 600 mm with aperture 5,6 - which is not bad. Therfore my question - does anyone know for sure - if the Pana 70 - 200 4.0 plus the 2 ply extender does work together with the CL and what about the performance ? Information would be highly appreciated. I have no further hope that Leica would bring up a converter for the 90/280 although many would like to have such one. Obviously the prefer to make add. lenses in focal lengths, where already a number of them exist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted September 14, 2019 Share #17 Posted September 14, 2019 I received the STC2 on Thursday evening. It will work with the S Lumix 70-200 on the CL. A couple of notes: 1) when I first attached this gear to the CL the camera would not auto focus, in fact, would not focus at all . I removed the lens and teleconverter and put them on the SL where they worked fine. I then reattached them to the CL and they worked fine and have ever since. (I am wondering if in the first use on the CL I confused the camera by attaching the STC2 and then mounting the lens on it?? Or perhaps the lens was being updated??) 2) The manual focus is quite fiddly, at least at full zoom, going in and out of focus quickly. I've posted a couple of images from this combination: here and here Here is another of a different sort. A tour bus at the gates to San Francisco's Chinatown. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/298462-panasonic-70-200-on-the-cl-and-sl-experiences-anyone/?do=findComment&comment=3820034'>More sharing options...
HeinzX Posted September 15, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 15, 2019 Thank you for our information. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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