Guest Posted June 5, 2019 Share #1 Posted June 5, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Today I went for lunch with my butifun wife and decided to take my beautiful M10 plus Noctilux............wow wow wow. I was like having a brick around my neck and to think that that was my go to combination just a few years ago. I have recently just come back from a trip to Hokkaido with just my Q2 that I am imagining only weighs a quarter of what I just lugged around today. Funny how we change as we get older Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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microview Posted June 5, 2019 Share #2 Posted June 5, 2019 Yes. The Q cameras are nice to carry around – but that's the price you pay for the flexibility of the M system. (Tried the CL and TL but didn't like sacrifice in IQ.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted June 5, 2019 Share #3 Posted June 5, 2019 The weight penalty of using an M with a comparable 28mm Summicron appears to be only an extra 200g, over the Q2, which in my view is fine. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 5, 2019 Share #4 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Would a hand strap and comfortable shoulder bag help? i think with Noctilux you have to accept it’s a heavy chunk of glass, but no pain no gain right? Edited June 5, 2019 by Simon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 5, 2019 Share #5 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Simon said: Would a hand strap and comfortable shoulder bag help? i think with Noctilux you have to accept its a heavy chunk of glass, but no pain no gain right? +1 I am just getting used to a new (to me) 0.95 - my copy weighs 770g “naked” as against the 700g in the specs so mine must have some extra glass in it somewhere. Mounted on my M60 would make for a 1490g lump that’s as hard to carry around all day as it is to focus.... Edited June 5, 2019 by NigelG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted June 5, 2019 Share #6 Posted June 5, 2019 “The anti-Barnack Solution”. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 5, 2019 Share #7 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) About the same as a Canon 1dx body before you mount a monster Zeiss Edited June 5, 2019 by NigelG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted June 5, 2019 Share #8 Posted June 5, 2019 I gave up my noctilux after a couple of years and gladly back with the summilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted June 5, 2019 Share #9 Posted June 5, 2019 Eventually you are back to the Summicron? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted June 5, 2019 Share #10 Posted June 5, 2019 The weight of a standard residential brick is 2.05 kg. M10 + battery + SD card weight is 0.662kg. Noctilux 0.95 weight is 0.7 kg, however this is stated by Leica as an approximate figure. Total = just under 1.4 kg. No wonder it feels like a brick! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 5, 2019 Share #11 Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, jakontil said: I gave up my noctilux after a couple of years and gladly back with the summilux That the case for me years ago. Even if I sometimes use the "Brick-Noct", I still prefer "back to Summarit-M" each time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 5, 2019 Share #12 Posted June 5, 2019 Bear in mind that plenty of people seem happy to walk around with a Billingham Hadley pro - which weighs 1.1kg empty..... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 5, 2019 Share #13 Posted June 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, NigelG said: Bear in mind that plenty of people seem happy to walk around with a Billingham Hadley pro - which weighs 1.1kg empty..... I've never seen someone walking around with empty Billingham Hadley Pro 🙈. Joking of course, I see what you mean, and I don't use much now a bag to carry photo gear that I manage to keep minimalist. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted June 5, 2019 Share #14 Posted June 5, 2019 7 hours ago, NW67 said: Today I went for lunch with my butifun wife and decided to take my beautiful M10 plus Noctilux............wow wow wow. I was like having a brick around my neck and to think that that was my go to combination just a few years ago. I have recently just come back from a trip to Hokkaido with just my Q2 that I am imagining only weighs a quarter of what I just lugged around today. Funny how we change as we get older Neil I never liked carrying cameras with a strap around my neck particularly the more expensive cameras. I carry almost all my camera kits with a wrist strap to include M10+Noctilux 0,95. Makes all the difference for me. If I need to put it away to use both hands,, I slip the M10 into the tiny Peak Design 5L sling bag which is also super light weight to carry across my shoulder or back. Maybe an option so you don't have to stop using your beautiful Noctilux. as much as you might like. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 5, 2019 Share #15 Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, a.noctilux said: I've never seen someone walking around with empty Billingham Hadley Pro 🙈. Joking of course, I see what you mean, and I don't use much now a bag to carry photo gear that I manage to keep minimalist. Same here - but I still end up somehow reading the "What bag?" threads....maybe I should start a "What pocket for a 50 Lux?" thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2019 Share #16 Posted June 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Nick_S said: The weight penalty of using an M with a comparable 28mm Summicron appears to be only an extra 200g, over the Q2, which in my view is fine. It’s not just weight with the Q2 you have double the resolution and the Q2 has amazing bouget wide open neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted June 6, 2019 Share #17 Posted June 6, 2019 Try a lighter lens. I got tired of a sore shoulder during trips when I have the camera on me all day & evening Now I'm going with the collapsible 50 Elmait-M (2.8). Plenty of Boka... the rig fits in the pocket of a bush jacket and I love the results. Just shot almost 800 shots in Provence over 3 weeks. Also added a rope strap, very comfortable 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 6, 2019 Share #18 Posted June 6, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 9:47 AM, Peter Kilmister said: The weight of a standard residential brick is 2.05 kg. M10 + battery + SD card weight is 0.662kg. Noctilux 0.95 weight is 0.7 kg, however this is stated by Leica as an approximate figure. Total = just under 1.4 kg. No wonder it feels like a brick! And if you add the mortar that attaches bricks to each other: The combination of brick and (Not too much.) mortar is around 2.3 kilos/5 pounds. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 6, 2019 Share #19 Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) On 6/5/2019 at 11:59 AM, LBJ2 said: I never liked carrying cameras with a strap around my neck particularly the more expensive cameras. I carry almost all my camera kits with a wrist strap to include M10+Noctilux 0,95. Makes all the difference for me. If I need to put it away to use both hands,, I slip the M10 into the tiny Peak Design 5L sling bag which is also super light weight to carry across my shoulder or back. Maybe an option so you don't have to stop using your beautiful Noctilux. as much as you might like. Hello LBJ2, I also like to carry a camera in my hand. But I do it with a shoulder strap on the camera. I adjust the shoulder strap so that when the thin strap, with no pad, is on my shoulder & the camera/lens is up against my eye: I have to pull the strap taught (But not too taught.) in order to hold it in place. I find that this strap tightened against my shoulder, when the eyepiece is at my eye, gives me at least +1 stop of added stability. When I am carrying the camera in between photo: The shoulder strap is looped around my carrying wrist. Which is an extra protection in terms of dropping, etc. Best Regards, Michael Edited June 6, 2019 by Michael Geschlecht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 6, 2019 Share #20 Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello LBJ2, I also like to carry a camera in my hand. But I do it with a shoulder strap on the camera. I adjust the shoulder strap so that when the thin strap, with no pad, is on my shoulder & the camera/lens is up against my eye: I have to pull the strap taught (But not too taught.) in order to hold it in place. I find that this strap tightened against my shoulder, when the eyepiece is at my eye, gives me at least +1 stop of added stability. When I am carrying the camera in between photo: The shoulder strap is looped around my carrying wrist. Which is an extra protection in terms of dropping, etc. Best Regards, Michael Our old friend Lars recommended this ‘sniper’ technique, which provides more than a stop benefit... Jeff Edited June 6, 2019 by Jeff S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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