Leica Q Raw file contrast

[slavcho]

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Hello

I own a Leica Q and I am happy even with the jpegs out of the camera. But I recently started to learn C1 and when I open the dngs in C1 they seem quite odd - like if someone processed them with photoshop with maximum contrast. I know that the jpeg out of the camera is not a benchmark for quality but still this does not make munch sense to me. The ICC Profile in C1 is set to Leica Q (Typ116) Generic. I don't know where is the problem - the jpeg out of the camera is smoothened or maybe something happened with the dng during import in C1? I attached a screenshot from C1 after import and  screen shot from Preview at 100%.

I would be very thankful if someone could have a look to the images. Best regards

out of camera:

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dng in C1:

Edited April 28, 2019 by slavcho

[Stephen_C]

When you ingest in Capture One are you using any Adjustment settings (see the left side of the ingest dialogue)? If so, what are they?

For what it's worth, I use Capture One 12 and am happy with the DNGs I import. They don't seem to need much attention other than auto adjustment of exposure, HDR and levels on import.

Edit: you can check what auto adjustments are being applied on ingest by going to Capture One > Adjustments > Configure Auto Adjustments. Sorry if you already know that!

Stephen

Edited April 29, 2019 by Stephen_C

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[microview]

Looks as though a lot of sharpening added rather than contrast affected. Lightroom for instance has a default sharpening in its Developer section but wouldn't look as extreme as your examples.

Edited April 29, 2019 by microview

[FHPdoc]

3 hours ago, microview said:

Looks as though a lot of sharpening added rather than contrast affected. Lightroom for instance has a default sharpening in its Developer section but wouldn't look as extreme as your examples.

slavcho,  I agree with what microview said.  At least on my screen, I can detect virtually no change in contrast—only added sharpening.

[frame-it]

make sure auto adjust and include existing adjustments are both off, and then see if there is any major difference..and also check the in-camera setting for the  jpg's

 

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[slavcho]

Hi guys

 

Thank You very much for the responses. Auto Adjustments were Levels, Exposure and High Dynamic Range. I turned them off. Camera jpeg settings are:

Color Management: sRGB

Contrast: Standard

Saturation: Standard

Sharpness: Standard

But unfortunately I still have the problem. And its not just over sharpened but the green colours of the leaves are different. Any idea?

I have uploaded the picture in 3 variants: jpeg out of camera (12mb), jpeg opened in C1 and exported as jpg with 100% quality (24mb)  and jpg exported from dng via PS. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146678799@N06/shares/02i318/

Many thanks in advance

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[soizic]

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I have "réponse linéaire" in "caractéristiques de base. 

Suggered by a friend who is a pro. 

[slavcho]

I don't understand what You mean...

best regards

Edited May 7, 2019 by slavcho

[jaapv]

That is a Curves preset. Contrast is easily manipulated in Curves.

[slavcho]

But I did not apply any Curves preset. Do You mean that I have to "fix" through Curves every image I import into C1 in order to get decent contrast like in the jpg out of camera? In Base Characteristics Curve is set to Auto. Best

 

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[jaapv]

I find I have to adjust Curves for just about ANY digital image out of any camera. A subtle midtones lift followed by linear contrast  and sometimes a tweak to shadows and highlights will improve nearly all images and make them look more film-like, for lack of a better description. Most OOC JPG images, especially Leica, are rather mediocre in my book.

It is not fixing, it is optimizing.
Just like before - pressing the shutter is the easiest part - the darkroom (nowadays your postprocessing)  and printing makes or breaks the result - see Ansel Adams.

[slavcho]

Okay. So basically I have to make a custom preset with similar steps like Yours to the point where I am satisfied with the quality and always apply it to my images as a "base adjustment". A more film-like look sounds great. Does someone want to share an example preset for Leica Q?