Dave in Wales Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share #61 Posted May 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 5/8/2019 at 6:10 PM, DonnaW said: If you could only have 1 lens, would you choose the TL 60? I have a Q (24 mm), but need something to get closer. Debating going for a CL Tl 60 vs 55-135 . I avoid changing lenses and prefer to use only one. Your recommendation if I go for a CL, what should be my 1st lens? 18-56 to start..........If you can add a CU filter as I did, a mint Elpro 2, this would give you a magnification of approx 0.4 times at a working distance of approx 6 inches.........But as you can see above the 55-135 is quite capable of 100% crops giving a CU capability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Hi Dave in Wales, Take a look here 55-135mm...What do owners think? -images allowed-. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted May 10, 2019 Share #62 Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 9:57 PM, bags27 said: I've posted this house finch elsewhere, but appropriate here, too. Shot through a glass window in manual focus mode--which I increasingly prefer with this lens. Any further noise reduction would result in a loss of essential detail. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It is quite back-focused, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted May 10, 2019 Share #63 Posted May 10, 2019 Yes, somewhat, I agree: thanks for noticing. But I don't have full confidence in the autofocus. Perhaps it was because I was shooting through glass, but it just keeps searching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 10, 2019 Share #64 Posted May 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, bags27 said: Yes, somewhat, I agree: thanks for noticing. But I don't have full confidence in the autofocus. Perhaps it was because I was shooting through glass, but it just keeps searching. Then why not try the hybrid system. AF - Half-pressure - Manual focusing with focus assist? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted May 10, 2019 Share #65 Posted May 10, 2019 Thanks. Always helpful to remember. Of course, at the time, this wasn't a bird that was waiting for me to run through my options mentally. But I take your point: it's good method to practice and be prepared. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted May 11, 2019 Share #66 Posted May 11, 2019 Just want to throw myself on the mercy of my more learned colleagues. I realize why I have had such a difficult time autofocusing this lens. I had set the profile to AutoFocus --> Spot instead of to --> Multi Point. Spot is fine for some lenses and times of day, etc., I'm sure, but once I changed to Multi Point I've been nailing it every time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted May 11, 2019 Share #67 Posted May 11, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 hours ago, wda said: Then why not try the hybrid system. AF - Half-pressure - Manual focusing with focus assist? Can you get magnification when you do this? I don't. Maybe a menu setting...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielfrimley Posted May 11, 2019 Share #68 Posted May 11, 2019 18 hours ago, wda said: Then why not try the hybrid system. AF - Half-pressure - Manual focusing with focus assist? Peaking. Don't expect magnification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 11, 2019 Share #69 Posted May 11, 2019 8 hours ago, bags27 said: Just want to throw myself on the mercy of my more learned colleagues. I realize why I have had such a difficult time autofocusing this lens. I had set the profile to AutoFocus --> Spot instead of to --> Multi Point. Spot is fine for some lenses and times of day, etc., I'm sure, but once I changed to Multi Point I've been nailing it every time. Face detection might suit you even better. It reverts to multifield if it does not detect a face. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted May 11, 2019 Share #70 Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) high ISO to allow for DOF and high shutterspeed. Red throated hummingbird--the main species in RI. Prefocused. I'm getting use to the lens, but haven't completely resolved my ambivalence. I think I'm a manual focus guy and don't need the extra weight. But it is sharp--about which I'm also ambivalent! 😀 see my signature below. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 11, 2019 by bags27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296532-55-135mmwhat-do-owners-think-images-allowed/?do=findComment&comment=3738989'>More sharing options...
wda Posted May 11, 2019 Share #71 Posted May 11, 2019 19 hours ago, gotium said: Can you get magnification when you do this? I don't. Maybe a menu setting...? No, it is a pity. It works brilliantly with adapted lenses, using the wheel for magnification. But the wheel is already committed to other functions when using AF lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted May 12, 2019 Share #72 Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, wda said: No, it is a pity. It works brilliantly with adapted lenses, using the wheel for magnification. But the wheel is already committed to other functions when using AF lenses. Rats Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 12, 2019 Share #73 Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, gotium said: Rats Please explain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted May 13, 2019 Share #74 Posted May 13, 2019 21 hours ago, wda said: Please explain. An expression of disappointment, at least here in the US - not sure about other anglophones. My only CL lens is the 18/2.8, and I have a hard time finessing the focus manually without magnification. I've tried your AF-followed-by-MF-fine-tuning but can't see the subject well without magnification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 13, 2019 Share #75 Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, gotium said: An expression of disappointment, at least here in the US - not sure about other anglophones. My only CL lens is the 18/2.8, and I have a hard time finessing the focus manually without magnification. I've tried your AF-followed-by-MF-fine-tuning but can't see the subject well without magnification. Thank you. I agree that it is more difficult with a prime wide angle lens. It is easier with longer focal-lengths and zoom lenses. I do find focus-peaking a useful aid, but be prepared to change the colour on occasions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 13, 2019 Share #76 Posted May 13, 2019 Is fine-tuning really needed with a 28 mm equivalent 2.8 lens (3,5 DOF) ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercoll Posted May 13, 2019 Share #77 Posted May 13, 2019 Briefly,I waited a long time to join the digital arena, from a Leica R3 of my late father's. The focusing performance overall of the Leica 'L' system is everything I could have hoped for, notwithstanding auto focus can have monstrous limitations, and I think too higher expectations are placed on something when by twisting a ring on the lens can reveal exactly what you're after in manual focus or half shutter press. After all, your fingers are probably there on the focusing ring already !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotium Posted May 13, 2019 Share #78 Posted May 13, 2019 5 hours ago, jaapv said: Is fine-tuning really needed with a 28 mm equivalent 2.8 lens (3,5 DOF) ? Sometimes, yes. Yesterday’s effort was because the subjects were moving behind the bars of a cage, and the camera chose to focus on the bars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 13, 2019 Share #79 Posted May 13, 2019 I see. I would go to full manual in such a case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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