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vor 20 Stunden schrieb Horst-Werner Sieben:

No doubt abaut it. A build-in Electronic View Finder would motivate me to sell my Q  and by a M 10.

Best,

Horst

Welcome to the forum Horst! But...buy a M 10 ? You mean an M 11?

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb YourFather:

Thank you everyone! I have posted check all answers and posts you sent me and I posted a video where I talk about 6 most asked features and what I think about them. 

If you want to check it out, here is the video. Thank you for the feedback 

 

Nice summary of ideas, I wonder, did you got permission for the copyright of all used films in your film? 

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4 hours ago, Paulus said:

Nice summary of ideas, I wonder, did you got permission for the copyright of all used films in your film? 

I did not for this particular one. It is however a common practice to use videos with voice over when talking about product as "Fair use". If the copyright holder feels like the use is too extensive they can take it down anytime. Other youtube channels do that all the time for example in gaming etc. I do know however that it is not an excuse, so If they do not like it, they can just claim it and take it down on youtube. I would pull it down and replace the footage. 

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vor 16 Minuten schrieb YourFather:

I did not for this particular one. It is however a common practice to use videos with voice over when talking about product as "Fair use". If the copyright holder feels like the use is too extensive they can take it down anytime. Other youtube channels do that all the time for example in gaming etc. I do know however that it is not an excuse, so If they do not like it, they can just claim it and take it down on youtube. I would pull it down and replace the footage. 

I understand...common practice.... The Leica Factory picture on the background , is this also a video from YouTube  or did you make this picture? 

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vor 48 Minuten schrieb YourFather:

I did not for this particular one. It is however a common practice to use videos with voice over when talking about product as "Fair use". If the copyright holder feels like the use is too extensive they can take it down anytime. Other youtube channels do that all the time for example in gaming etc. I do know however that it is not an excuse, so If they do not like it, they can just claim it and take it down on youtube. I would pull it down and replace the footage. 

I saw you also have a film about Fan Ho. Are the photos in this film copyright of Fan Ho or in what way did you ask for permission. I saw that Fan Ho has its own website. https://www.fanhophotography.com/index.html# I cannot imagine that photographers do not mind. What is your experience with this? And what about Magnum Photos. Did you have to buy every photo of Robert Capa in Licence or are these also " Fair use ". e.g. this one https://pro.magnumphotos.com/CS.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2K1HZO4T7MTSLG&SMLS=1&RW=1440&RH=802

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I saw you also have a film about Fan Ho. Are the photos in this film copyright of Fan Ho or in what way did you ask for permission. I saw that Fan Ho has its own website. https://www.fanhophotography.com/index.html# I cannot imagine that photographers do not mind. What is your experience with this? 

 

So, under the “fair use” you are under certain conditions allowed to use someones work if for example: it is commentary, documentary, transformative does not decrease the value etc.

So for example, when you see a video without anything like that thats just streight using photos, thats probably not a”fair use” but again copyright holder can decide to put ads there, or even take it down.

  If you are interested in this I would recommend this article https://www.youtube.com/yt/about/copyright/fair-use/#yt-copyright-four-factors

in this particular case someone who is taking care of Fan Ho copyrights contacted me offering to provide more materials for another video. So I might be able to have more videos about him in the future.

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Precautionary note:

May I remind members that this site runs under German law. Fair use is not recognized in Germany. So whatever one does on one's own site, inserting copyrighted material under the banner of "fair use" is not allowed on this forum.

In the case of YouTube videos, which embed automatically, linking is allowed.

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3 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Precautionary note:

May I remind members that this site runs under German law. Fair use is not recognized in Germany. So whatever one does on one's own site, inserting copyrighted material under the banner of "fair use" is not allowed on this forum.

Thank you, thats good to know. I will mind that in the future posts.

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I wonder how long after the M11 becomes available there will be a wishlist thread for the M12?
I suppose it would be counterproductive for me to say I'm enjoying the hell out of the M10 and don't really feel strongly about changing any part of it. But I'll say it anyway.

 

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb fotografr:

I wonder how long after the M11 becomes available there will be a wishlist thread for the M12?
I suppose it would be counterproductive for me to say I'm enjoying the hell out of the M10 and don't really feel strongly about changing any part of it. But I'll say it anyway.

 

The reason I started with the thread: 

 

in the first place , was the notice from Leica, that they would bring a M 11 on the market more soon than was expected. As stated in the interview on page one. 

Second reson was the article of Erwin Puts: http://photo.imx.nl//camera/styled-56/ in which he states that: "If you are happy with the results of the M/240 or the MM2 it is best to skip the M10 release. For M9 and M8 owners/users, the migration to the M10 is advisable and should become a serious consideration. " 

The articles led me to believe, that the M 10 was an " in between camera " with only minor changes not worth buying or using. hearing about the M 10 from friends and buying it myself I am not so sure anymore about the :" in between" character of the camera. 

But yes, just for the sport of it, I would start as soon as I could with a new thread about the M 12 because it show a lot of information about how people are thinking about a new M 11. 

 

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I’m not sure that a review of frequently requested items on this thread represents much, other than the strength of feeling of a minority. The “squeaky door” syndrome. 

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I have one more wish for the M11: An ISO-free image sensor! It would be great to have one less thing to think about when shooting. When the light is low, we just "squeeze" the aperture and shutter as much as we can, and if the image is still underexposed, the remaining exposure is simply lifted in post processing. With an ISO free sensor this will give a result equivalent to shooting with a higher ISO.

Of course the camera should still keep the ISO wheel for those who wish to manually set an ISO value the "old way". And I guess the new possibility would be extra practical in a screenless M11-D, because an eventually underexposed picture will not show anyway.

I have never looked at ISO as a true member of the exposure triangle, because it doesn't supply more light to the picture in the same way as the aperture and exposure time do. ISO free shooting would in a way be even more pure and simple, and I think that will fit nicely with Leica's philosophy.

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vor 2 Minuten schrieb evikne:

I have one more wish for the M11: An ISO-free image sensor! It would be great to have one less thing to think about when shooting. When the light is low, we just "squeeze" the aperture and shutter as much as we can, and if the image is still underexposed, the remaining exposure is simply lifted in post processing. With an ISO free sensor this will give a result equivalent to shooting with a higher ISO.

Of course the camera should still keep the ISO wheel for those who wish to manually set an ISO value the "old way". And I guess the new possibility would be extra practical in a screenless M11-D, because an eventually underexposed picture will not show anyway.

I have never looked at ISO as a true member of the exposure triangle, because it doesn't supply more light to the picture in the same way as the aperture and exposure time do. ISO free shooting would in a way be even more pure and simple, and I think that will fit nicely with Leica's philosophy.

You mean like the iso free sensor of my Leica MP? How do you imagine this? Elaborate some more please.

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