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The M10 is wonderful, here's my list to make it even better:

- option to light framelines green when camera is level.
- internal memory, just like the Q2.
- remove screen’s plastic frame - it doesn’t belong on such a polished design!
- reduce weight but keep top/bottom plates brass.  keep the baseplate as-is.
- faster wifi connection and downloads.
- 36MP or 24MP.  I don’t want 80 MB files like the Q2.
- keep the same battery so M10M and M11 can share batteries.
- optional top script instead of red dot on day one.

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My wife's wish list for the M11 is that it not be introduced until I'm in the ground.

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Some confusion here.... All digital sensors have ONE ISO - one fixed natural sensitivity to light. And always have, and always will. It is built into the silicon architecture, in the same way tha

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Am 9.4.2019 um 16:29 schrieb YourFather:

Hi, I was wondering what is it you would like to see (features) in new M11.

I think I'm getting old. ....

Everything I wish for is already in " our " thread. Maybe you'll have to read it first before you ask: 

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An M11 that might get my buy in...or in this case it might be called an M11EV:

1. An electronic and therefore silent shutter. When I use it in candid roles, people start looking at the M10 after the second frame, it’s a harsh noise. It’s also a bit frustrating that Leica has not started the upgrade service yet.

2. A much better pattern type meter. Unlike any other camera I have ever used, the M10 heavily underexposes at the slightest hint of a blown out background, often so bad that no amount of exposure comp can fix it.

3. OVF/EVF hybrid. I shoot a lot of black and white with the M10 and twin Z6’s in my editorial work now, seeing it live in the Z6 is mind blowing effectiveness from a creative standpoint.

4. M10 ISO 6400 noise level at ISO 25,000 in M11, if needed to accomplish, keep it at 24MP. I love ISO 10,000 on the M10 so even one stop of improvement would be a stunner for digging deep and rich light out of darkness.

 

I get great joy out of using my M10 and it is on a job tomorrow, I almost feel naked without it. So as annoying as it might be to hear this and I won’t go on about it..the photos I am getting from a combo like the Z6 and the 50mm 1.8S are just flooring my clients, truly impressive visual outcomes. In order for me to continue to justify using my M10 in heavy roles, I need that damn shutter upgraded.

In the M11 the shutter really ought to have an option for it to be silenced, Leica can’t avoid this anymore. It really does make a superlative difference in rendering the candid world.

I’m sure they know this and I therefore look forward to the M11.

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1. Minimum 36MP. 24 is the only reason I didn't buy M10-P. Not ideal for big prints.

2. No EVF.

3. Weight reduction: 600g (Optional)

4. OLED display would be nice. (Optional)

 

That's it. M10-P is near perfect tbh. Just needs an updated sensor/MP count. 

 

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On 4/11/2019 at 4:10 AM, Nick_S said:

Here is my wish list:

- In-camera remapping of dead pixels, rather than having to return the camera back to Leica.
 

 

 

 

This one already exists. I just went through the process. My M10 had a row of dead pixels so I sent an unprocessed DNG to technicians at Leica AG. Two days later they emailed me a firmware update which I installed and eliminated the problem.

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My wish list is short and very minor:

--Quiet shutter just like the M10-P, although the current M10 shutter doesn't bother me.

--Lose the video. I just ignore that it's there, so it's no big deal either way.

--24MP is just fine.

--Use slots through the top plate for strap attachment (like the SL). Ever since having a lug come off (long time ago) while carrying my M6 with a 75mm Summilux, I've been nervous about relying on the strap lugs with any heavy lens attached. It seems to me this would be a very easy design element to implement.

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1 hour ago, fotografr said:

This one already exists. I just went through the process. My M10 had a row of dead pixels so I sent an unprocessed DNG to technicians at Leica AG. Two days later they emailed me a firmware update which I installed and eliminated the problem. 

That sounds like a considerable improvement over my M9Monochrom which needed to physically go back to Leica when it had a hot, constant white, pixel. What happens next time a firmware update is released, e.g, when new lenses profiles are added, are you going to need another custom firmware?

Canon cameras, I have read, do this pixel remapping in the camera during the Manual Sensor Cleaning function, which sounds very convenient.

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vor 12 Stunden schrieb GT2RS:

1. Minimum 36MP. 24 is the only reason I didn't buy M10-P. Not ideal for big prints.

2. No EVF.

3. Weight reduction: 600g (Optional)

4. OLED display would be nice. (Optional)

 

That's it. M10-P is near perfect tbh. Just needs an updated sensor/MP count. 

 

A crop from a bl&w photo glued to the wall of my bathroom ( just captured  it with a D3 camera + micro nikkor 55 ) . 46*30 cm M8. I don't really need a 36MP sensor I think , I need a bigger house...

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4 hours ago, Nick_S said:

That sounds like a considerable improvement over my M9Monochrom which needed to physically go back to Leica when it had a hot, constant white, pixel. What happens next time a firmware update is released, e.g, when new lenses profiles are added, are you going to need another custom firmware?

Canon cameras, I have read, do this pixel remapping in the camera during the Manual Sensor Cleaning function, which sounds very convenient.

There was no indication I'd need a custom firmware update but they were so fast with this fix I wouldn't even worry about it. The Canon system must be fairly new and sounds ideal. I used Canons up through the 5D MkII and had to send them in twice for dead pixels. They were VERY fast repairs, however.

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1 hour ago, Paulus said:

Thanks! I realize that I also don't really want to use the motordrive capacity of the M 10 to capture the moment.

I agree. I appreciate the auto advance, but I can't recall ever using the C setting on any digital M.

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Keep the M10 in its current form factor, its absolutely perfect.  Add a 36MP sensor and IBIS, and thats all thats needed IMHO. I have a pair of M10's and it's my best M experience yet, they just nailed everything in this model IMHO.

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29 minutes ago, jplomley said:

Keep the M10 in its current form factor, its absolutely perfect.  Add a 36MP sensor and IBIS, and thats all thats needed IMHO. I have a pair of M10's and it's my best M experience yet, they just nailed everything in this model IMHO.

Good luck adding IBIS while keeping the same form factor (size/weight- wise).

Jeff

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no more RF calibration issue PLEASE!  It's ridiculous to have problems out of the box.

real ISO performance from 64 to 51200 for the sake

a fast and high resolution external EVF for purchase

adjustable internal diopter -3 to +3

50+ MP sensor

electronic sensor cleaning

black body must be brass but not chrome

more user profile slot

Maybe an extra version for raw shooters, omit maestro processor to save cost.

 

 

 

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