oekoek Posted April 7, 2019 Share #1 Posted April 7, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everybody, Like many others i am looking to replace Lightroom because of the subscription thing. So today i downloaded the trail version of DxO Photolab 2, it seems nice but it does not recognize the raw files from M9 monochrome. Is there a way to process M9M raw files with DxO Photolab 2 or shpuld i look further? Thanks in advance for your help, Timo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rob_w Posted April 7, 2019 Share #2 Posted April 7, 2019 I tried the trial version a while back. From memory you have to download profiles for each camera you want to use, but that may be wrong. Generally, I have found most photo editors recognise DNGs immediately. Currently trialling Luminar 3 with positive results. If you have the time / interest to examine several products, I would recommend trying this one as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart D Posted April 7, 2019 Share #3 Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, oekoek said: Hello everybody, Like many others i am looking to replace Lightroom because of the subscription thing. So today i downloaded the trail version of DxO Photolab 2, it seems nice but it does not recognize the raw files from M9 monochrome. Is there a way to process M9M raw files with DxO Photolab 2 or shpuld i look further? Thanks in advance for your help, Timo DxO PhotoLab does not process dng files from the monochrom. They didn't create the camera specific module for this camera. Capture One does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted April 7, 2019 Share #4 Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) @Bart D It processes M10 files without a specific camera profile. Thus, that is not a criterium. Edited April 7, 2019 by Gobert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart D Posted April 7, 2019 Share #5 Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Gobert said: @Bart D It processes M10 files without a specific camera profile. Thus, that is not a criterium. But the M10 is supported and some 8 lenses. As for the Monochrom, when I noticed the DNG were not useable, I inquired with DxO and this was their answer. Also that they had no plans to support the Monochrom, to limited a market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2019 Share #6 Posted April 7, 2019 Just run the files through Adobe's DNG converter (freeware) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted April 7, 2019 Share #7 Posted April 7, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 hours ago, Bart D said: But the M10 is supported and some 8 lenses. As for the Monochrom, when I noticed the DNG were not useable, I inquired with DxO and this was their answer. Also that they had no plans to support the Monochrom, to limited a market. M10 is supported without specific profiles... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2019 Share #8 Posted April 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Bart D said: But the M10 is supported and some 8 lenses. As for the Monochrom, when I noticed the DNG were not useable, I inquired with DxO and this was their answer. Also that they had no plans to support the Monochrom, to limited a market. I struggle to understand this obsession we see nowadays with lens profiles. We buy Leica M for their extraordinary optical designs. Is it really an advantage to let a bunch of software developers mess with the character? A Leica M lens (unlike for instance the Q, SL or CL/TL) has been designed as a purely optically corrected lens. Any digital fiddling with the output will take away from the excellence. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 7, 2019 Share #9 Posted April 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, jaapv said: Any digital fiddling with the output will take away from the excellence. That's a massive assumption. LightRoom has profiles for Leica M lenses ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2019 Share #10 Posted April 7, 2019 Yes, but a reasonable assumption. Just read the multitude of threads on “Mandler magic, “clinical” asph lenses, etc. I don’t think that we really want to do digital manipulation on our lens character. Added to which I have never been able to see much effect beyond a bit of vignerons and distortion correction anyway. It is all a bit of a gimmick IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridbor Posted April 8, 2019 Share #11 Posted April 8, 2019 Timo, I and a number of my friends have turned to Phase 1, Capture 1 instead of Lightroom. I got it free with my purchase of my Sony, but others have the same problem as you paying monthly for the Lightroom SW. Capture 1 does support a slew of Leica lenses. I use the "Generic" Lens as I use older R lenses, and maybe I also because agree with Jaap that there's no reason to correct, maybe 🙂 https://www.captureone.com Not knowing Lightroom I must admit that I enjoy the features in Capture 1. My 2 Cents. Preben Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 8, 2019 Share #12 Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, jaapv said: Yes, but a reasonable assumption. Just read the multitude of threads on “Mandler magic, “clinical” asph lenses, etc. I don’t think that we really want to do digital manipulation on our lens character. Added to which I have never been able to see much effect beyond a bit of vignerons and distortion correction anyway. It is all a bit of a gimmick IMO. Ah, not so much. I'm not sure I buy all the Leica glow, Mandler magic stuff. I've found I can mess that up quite quickly in post - I have the 28 Summaron-M, the 35 Summilux-M pre-asph, the 50 Summitar f/2 LTM, the 75 Summilux-M and the 135 Elmar-M, so I'm pretty familiar with the rather soppy nostalgia associated with older lenses - it's the aberrations I find interesting, but distortion and extreme vignetting I can do without. Vignerons are another matter altogether ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2019 Share #13 Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: Vignerons are another matter altogether ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 8, 2019 Share #14 Posted April 8, 2019 My spellchecker must come from Bordeaux .... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 8, 2019 Share #15 Posted April 8, 2019 Well, distortions are pretty limited on most Leica lenses and invisible in 95% of my photographs, and a vignette is something that I am as likely to add as to remove That makes them completely useless to me. Having said that, I find the perspective corrections in PSCC quite useful from time to time. BTW, I didn’t even reinstall LRCC when I recently cleaned up my computer. I tried many programs, use Luminar on my little MacBook Air, but I yet have to find anything that works for me outside Photoshop. There is no program that I know of that offers LAB colour and content aware technology as well, and I use those all the time. Let alone layer blending and the wide range of sharpening options. It fits me like a glove. The subscription turns out to be a lot cheaper than the updates in the past. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 8, 2019 Share #16 Posted April 8, 2019 I’m very happy for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oekoek Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted April 8, 2019 Hello All, Thanks for the answers and the suggestions, i will certainly have a look at them. I was afraid i couldn't process monochrome raw files with DxO Photolab 2, i guess things aren't that simple and so the search continues. Many regards, Timo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 8, 2019 Share #18 Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, IkarusJohn said: I’m very happy for you. I think quite a few users do not look past the mental obstacle of the subscription model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart D Posted April 8, 2019 Share #19 Posted April 8, 2019 17 hours ago, jaapv said: I struggle to understand this obsession we see nowadays with lens profiles. We buy Leica M for their extraordinary optical designs. Is it really an advantage to let a bunch of software developers mess with the character? A Leica M lens (unlike for instance the Q, SL or CL/TL) has been designed as a purely optically corrected lens. Any digital fiddling with the output will take away from the excellence. Who said I am obsessed with lens profiles. It just about being able to process Monochrom DNG with PhotoLab or not. In order to have this possibility, the camera needs to be supported. The Monochrom is not. Regardless of lens profiles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 8, 2019 Share #20 Posted April 8, 2019 It was a general remark... As I said, I suspect that running the files through Adobe's DNG converter will solve the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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