cirke Posted April 1, 2019 Share #41 Posted April 1, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 hours ago, pico said: Is that a challenge? 54 minutes ago, ramarren said: I think what EGOR has to say, and demonstrates so clearly, is very sound. he says : The M246 will absolutely provide me with more of a technical, tactile and emotional advantage than any camera I already own The main problem here is the word emotional ... it says it all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nicci78 Posted April 1, 2019 Share #42 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, lct said: Been trying this since the seventies, to no avail unfortunately. Silver Efex allows me to use color filters in a way i never suspected before. Quite a game changer to me. YMMV. I understand that. Use what fits you best. But I do not see the benefit to dismiss other specialised tools. M Monochrom + Orange filter is gorgeous. By the way, Leica announced its intention to produce RYYB (yes yellow) cameras instead of RGGB one. Yellow will gather twice the light of green. For what is worth Monochrom is a WWWW (for white) camera. So no guess work for him Bayer is not ideal at all. Just look at how hard it is to get nice reds. The least sensitive colour. For red flowers macro shots, film is the way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share #43 Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) On 3/31/2019 at 3:24 PM, nicci78 said: Try the Monochrom once to be really convinced. But please do not use Silver Efex, results are bad with it. Not my experience. I've had excellent results with Silver Efex Pro II. Here are a couple of examples from the MM1 using Silver Efex. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 4, 2019 by fotografr 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/295702-perfect-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3715465'>More sharing options...
ramarren Posted April 4, 2019 Share #44 Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 12:52 AM, ramarren said: Since this thread seems to have become a "monochrom vs rgb" debate, the very best discussion and comparison of the M9 Monochrom vs the M246 Monochrom vs the M240 was written by EGOR (Gregory Simpson) back in 2015 or so: Sensors and Sensibility : The Leica M (246) Monochrom Sentences and Sensibility: Leica’s M (246) Pt. 2 I think what EGOR has to say, and demonstrates so clearly, is very sound. If I'd actually gotten the M246 as I had planned, I'm sure I'd have loved it. But it didn't happen, my needs have moved on in other directions, I'm completely satisfied with what my current equipment does with respect to producing B&W photographs, and nothing anyone else has said makes the slightest bit of difference to my feelings on this subject any more. I've got a roll of HP5 in my "new to me" Fuji GS645S. I suspect that will be my Monochrom for the foreseeable future. First test roll done and processed. Quick-scanned with Film Lab and my iPhone 8 Plus so I could post images quickly ... Those big negatives look great! I have the full rez CL-made scans in my archive ready to be rendered now too, but these were good enough for web viewing! Anyone want to see them, just check my Instagram (godfreydigiorgi) or Flickr (GDGPhoto) accounts. I definitely need a light green, yellow, and orange filter for this camera and general B&W photography; can't get the skin and foliage tones I want without them. The lens takes a very common 49mm filter so I might even have them in my junk drawer of miscellaneous filter stuff. They mean that 400 speed film is actual ISO 64 to 200, depending on which filter is fitted... so much for the speed gain of a Monochrom sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 9, 2019 Share #45 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 12:16 PM, nicci78 said: I understand that. Use what fits you best. But I do not see the benefit to dismiss other specialised tools. M Monochrom + Orange filter is gorgeous. By the way, Leica announced its intention to produce RYYB (yes yellow) cameras instead of RGGB one. Yellow will gather twice the light of green. For what is worth Monochrom is a WWWW (for white) camera. So no guess work for him Bayer is not ideal at all. Just look at how hard it is to get nice reds. The least sensitive colour. For red flowers macro shots, film is the way to go. AFAIK it was Huawei for Leica-lensed smartphones, not Leica cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 9, 2019 Share #46 Posted April 9, 2019 I agree with Brent - Silver Efex Pro works well with Monochrom files, in my experience. It does help, though, to choose the right filter. I also agree with Nicci (to an extent) - when the Monnochrom was first released, I thought it was a daft idea. Being able to adjust colour channels to produce B&W images from colour files just seemed to be a better idea. Then I started playing with Jono's China images and I was hooked. Great camera, particularly with the APO-Summicron-M 50mm lens ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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