Photon42 Posted April 4, 2019 Share #21 Posted April 4, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 3/29/2019 at 10:18 AM, Del-Uks said: No much "glow" with my Summilux 50mm v3 either... but some lovely/buttery rendering my Summilux 50mm (APO) Asph can't produce... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Reminds me somewhat of my S2 + 70/2.5. I like the Focus bottle 👌 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Hi Photon42, Take a look here Leica Summilux 50mm f/1.4 vs. Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dlaugh Posted July 21, 2019 Share #22 Posted July 21, 2019 Any significant difference in viewfinder blockage between the two lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
genji Posted July 23, 2019 Share #23 Posted July 23, 2019 I own both lenses and found the various opinions expressed in this thread about the differences between them to be balanced and accurate. I have the Black Chrome version of the Lux 50 ASPH and completely agree with JT07’s view that, if one could have only one lens, the Lux 50 ASPH would be it. The CV 50/1.2 is an excellent modern neutral lens and an absolute bargain given its price. But the Lux’s magical rendering, its wide open sharpness, and its superiority at close distance made it worth the extra cost for me. The tactile pleasure I get from using the M10-P + BC Lux 50 ASPH combo to make pictures is the icing on the cake. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRKstudio Posted October 23, 2019 Share #24 Posted October 23, 2019 I had the Lux ASPH and now the CV 50/1.2. I also had the 50/.95 Noct. I sold the Lux and the Noct and now only have the CV50/1.2. It sort of bridges between the Noct and the Lux. At f/1.2, it’s soft, glows with spherical aberrations, and has smooth OOF rendering. It’s def a look the Lux can not exhibit, and close really to the 50 Noct at f/.95, but without the Nocts wide-open field curvature and as heavy vignetting. Stopped down some, f/2.8 about and onwards, the CV is sharp as a tack through the frame, has Pretty smooth bokeh, a relatively flat field, and is really a much different lens. thus it’s almost like two different lenses in one. It reminds me of a modern 75 Lux more so than either the current Noct or 50 Lux. All in all. I sold my 50 Lux and 50/.95 Noct and now have the CV 50/1.2 VM and the 50 APO. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 23, 2019 Share #25 Posted October 23, 2019 Am 28.3.2019 um 16:04 schrieb SMAL: The Summilux-M 50/1.4 Asph has no 'Leica glow.' It has. But most people talking about 'Leica glow' just don't understand what this term actually refers to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 23, 2019 Share #26 Posted October 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, 01af said: But most people talking about 'Leica glow' just don't understand what this term actually refers to. I don't. So I don't talk about it. Please could you - or someone else who does understand what it is - please post a side by side example of an image with and without glow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted October 23, 2019 Share #27 Posted October 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) It take the Leica glow to be the leaking of bright areas of an image onto adjacent darker areas as a sort of diffuse glow which doesn't prevent underlying sharpness from coming through. I attach here a pixel level crop from the Leica summarit at f/1.5 which I recently posted. A sort of glow can be seen e.g. around the bear's white body and on the blue part of its scarf. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/295636-leica-summilux-50mm-f14-vs-voigtlander-50mm-f12/?do=findComment&comment=3840803'>More sharing options...
sinjun Posted October 23, 2019 Share #28 Posted October 23, 2019 By f/2 it has pretty much gone. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/295636-leica-summilux-50mm-f14-vs-voigtlander-50mm-f12/?do=findComment&comment=3840804'>More sharing options...
01af Posted October 23, 2019 Share #29 Posted October 23, 2019 vor 4 Minuten schrieb sinjun: It take the Leica glow to be the leaking of bright areas of an image onto adjacent darker areas as a sort of diffuse glow which doesn't prevent underlying sharpness from coming through. [...] And this is exactly what it's not. Instead, 'Leica glow' refers to a sense of ... umm, reality that comes from a certain combination of good sharpness and high micro-contrast. It's a bit difficult to produce in web images viewed on monitors; it will become more obvious in well-made prints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted October 23, 2019 Share #30 Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 01af said: Instead, 'Leica glow' refers to a sense of ... umm, reality that comes from a certain combination of good sharpness and high micro-contrast. It's a bit difficult to produce in web images viewed on monitors; it will become more obvious in well-made prints. That sounds like a sparkle rather that a glow 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted October 23, 2019 Share #31 Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, 01af said: And this is exactly what it's not. Instead, 'Leica glow' refers to a sense of ... umm, reality that comes from a certain combination of good sharpness and high micro-contrast. It's a bit difficult to produce in web images viewed on monitors; it will become more obvious in well-made prints. I must admit that your definition seems to relate to properties arising from excellence in lens design and execution, whilst mine depends essentially on an aberration. However, yours seems like a very elusive phenomenon of which the term 'glow' is not very descriptive. Also, in my experience it is mentioned in the context of older rather than modern lens designs. I suspect that there are several more opinions on this at least... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 23, 2019 Share #32 Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, 01af said: Instead, 'Leica glow' refers to a sense of ... umm, reality that comes from a certain combination of good sharpness and high micro-contrast. Ah, so it's the same as the "3D" effect then. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrdiaz30 Posted October 24, 2019 Share #33 Posted October 24, 2019 To me, this image represents the term “glow”. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270708-nifty-fifty-please-share-some-50-mm-pictures/page/68/?tab=comments#comment-3680436 Cheers...Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 24, 2019 Share #34 Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 7:53 AM, NRKstudio said: At f/1.2, it’s soft, glows with spherical aberrations, and has smooth OOF rendering. It’s def a look the Lux can not exhibit, ... because the 50/1.4 Summilux asph's aberrations are corrected to minimise spherical aberration, and to have high acutance wide open. On the other hand the 50/1.4 Summilux pre-asph is not as well corrected and its pictures will exhibit softness wide open and SA. Choose what suits your taste. Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 25, 2019 Share #35 Posted October 25, 2019 15 hours ago, rrdiaz30 said: To me, this image represents the term “glow”. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/270708-nifty-fifty-please-share-some-50-mm-pictures/page/68/?tab=comments#comment-3680436 Cheers...Rick To get the glow you need to use old Leitz lenses. Like Summarit 50 1.5 or Lux 35 1.4, wide open. It is most visible on bw film, the exposure format these lenses where made for. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanGeist Posted October 26, 2019 Share #36 Posted October 26, 2019 Am 23.10.2019 um 11:50 schrieb 01af: It has. But most people talking about 'Leica glow' just don't understand what this term actually refers to. Uncorrected spherical aberrations mostly found in Mandler lenses when used wide open. Highlights are surrounded in a veil often named »glow«. A very good example is this shot here: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 26, 2019 Share #37 Posted October 26, 2019 vor 4 Stunden schrieb vanGeist: Uncorrected spherical aberrations mostly found in Mandler lenses when used wide open. Highlights are surrounded in a veil often named »glow«. Yes, that's some kind of glow, too. But this occurs with lenses from many makers, not just Leica. 'Leica glow' doesn't come from residual aberrations but from the lack thereof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 26, 2019 Share #38 Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 50lux has no glow. My $30 Konica hexanon has more glow wide open. Go for older lenses if you want glow (or replicate in photoshop with Gaussian blur transparent layer technique). For me 50lux is all rounder lens. I can even use it wide open for distance shots and expect more or less sharpness across the field. And also use it for close distances with creamy bokeh. Yes, it is extremely sharp in the center but you can always reduce that in post if you want. And if you use it on film then the sharpness is just perfect. It is my go to lens along with 28cron when lighter lens is not needed. Edited October 26, 2019 by jmahto 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted October 26, 2019 Share #39 Posted October 26, 2019 Glow ~= spherical aberration. Some specialty lenses such as the Nikon 58mm f1.4 or the newer Sigma 45mm f2.8 undercorrect for it deliberately, ash the expense of sharpness, in the hope of differentiating themselves from the near perfection that the competition offers fairly routinely. The Summilux 50mm, my first Leica lens, is hard to beat. I've not tried the Voigtlander but some of my other, ultra-wide, Voigtlangers have less good colour. As I understand it, Voigtlander is going for the classic / Mandler era rendering that many that have the £$ for photography enjoy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 26, 2019 Share #40 Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 1:16 AM, farnz said: ... because the 50/1.4 Summilux asph's aberrations are corrected to minimise spherical aberration, and to have high acutance wide open. On the other hand the 50/1.4 Summilux pre-asph is not as well corrected and its pictures will exhibit softness wide open and SA. Choose what suits your taste. Pete. I cannot decide, so I have both. 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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