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By clngoodHi guys, I bought an M-P last April, and I have been using it ever since, no problem at all. But last Monday, when I was out shooting photos with it, I noticed one strange thing, after I captured a photo, I pressed the "Play" Button to view it, however, that photo was automatically zoomed in, as if I had moved the thumb wheel, but I didn't do that obviously. I don't remember if I ever put my thumb on the thumb wheel, but I was pretty sure I didn't move it. And it occurred only once, I have done some shooting the following day too, but nothing happened.
So have you guys encountered the same issue? What could be the reason behind it? I sweater often when I'm holding the camera, so could the sweater somehow got into the thumb wheel and caused it to automatically move? Or was is it some CMOS or systematic issue?
By Tom1234PRICING THOUGHTS & MARKET SIZE 10-2020
EXPANDING LEICA MARKET THROUGH PRICING ADJUSTMENTS
Has Leica priced only for the super rich not the middle class or even worker-who-can-save? With M10's going USED at $4,5000 TO $5,500 most people can not afford them. Even used only the super rich can afford them.
If they had sold the new M10's around $4,500, about $2,000 above the $2,500 that the Asian cameras sell for, then used the Leica would sell for $2,000 to $3,000 where many could afford them.
Thus a used Leica's price would compete with new Asian camera prices. This would give Leica a double market to sell to, both new and used, and greater market penetration (more sales), and a reason to expand their repair department which is greatly needed.
ECONOMIC SYSTEM PRICE POINT AND SIZE OF THE MARKET
If you can sell the trade-in camera, then it is normally easier to sell a new camera, is it not? By hurting the trade-in used market with high priced used cameras, it must be harder to sell new $7,000 cameras. Since the used cameras are selling at $4,5000+ then it could only be to a few very rich people - thus used cameras compete with Leica's own new camera market. I realize it is not this simple but I am sure you get my point. Could Leica could end up like Pentax & Rollei?
Leica might have a better "economic system", at a more reasonable new price and greater sales, with the accompanying better/larger repair department. The existing repair department could not fully fix my Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 lens.
Is there demand at $3,500 to $4,500 new body price, for an M11? At $3,500 you would likely convert some new-camera Asian-camera buyers to new-camera Leica-camera buyers. That is about 40% more for a body than the Asian market can provide at $2,500. At $4,500+ you probably loose this convert.
Probably due to this overpricing effect on both bodies and lenses, no camera store sells Leica in my home town. My town is in a CSA (combined statistical area) population of 1,096,961. Our top camera store told me years ago they could not carry a camera unless they could sell ONE a month, so they dropped Leica. Lower used prices would give camera stores something to sell profitably (selling new cameras is hardly profitable I am told) and keep them in business.
TRADE-IN COMPETITION & PRICING
Trade-ins are NOT reasonably priced, when they are priced above the price of new Asian cameras, cameras that frankly exceed the capabilities of any Leica. But of course the Asian cameras are a horror story of complexity to operate, so many users dislike them. Asian digital cameras remove the sense of being an artist and turn you into a technician.
ALTERNATIVES & COLOR FEATURE
As now priced, Leica sends me to Panasonic S1, S1-R, S1-H or better yet Nikon Z6, Z7 which has very very close to the Leica-Euro color hues when using old Leica lenses as reports show with pictures.
Sadly with M10-R the Leica-Euro-Color may be lost in order to extend the dynamic range of the smaller pixel sensor? Why not give a Euro-Color Leica-Look check box in the menus to select this color saturation level and loose the one or one-half stop of brightness that is needed to achieve it? As long as the dark areas go black, and not to Noise, then it would be acceptable for many users.
Please take my comments as a hope for an expanded Leica market. I also realize, that the market resolves all issues, and has a sort of fairness all its own that we must submit to. I do enjoy the economic study.
By Haze70Hallo in die Runde
Ich habe mal eine Frage. Ist bei jemanden schon mal das Glas im Bajonett was zur Objektivabtastung gehört, kaputt gegangen? Bei meiner zeigte sich erst ein kleiner Art schwarzer Streifen. Die Kamera erkannte aber noch die Objektive korrekt. Dann bemerkte ich, dass Sie immer mal wieder ein und das selbe Objektiv mit unterschiedlichen Exif angaben abspeicherte. Darauf habe ich gesehen, dass es anscheinend an einer Ecke sich das Glas vom Bajonett gelöst hatte. Daraufhin habe ich die Kamera über meinen Händler zu Leica eingeschickt, weil ich noch Garantie hatte. Jetzt kam von Leica die Rückmeldung, das es sich nicht um einen Garantieschaden handelt und es repariert werden muss. Jetzt ist natürlich mein Problem. Ist das Bajonett an der Stelle so empfindlich, ich weiß beim besten willen nicht, wie ich hätte den Schaden erzeugen soll. Leider. Das trübt extrem die Nutzbarkeit für mich, da traut man sich ja nicht mehr das Objektiv zu wechseln. Ich habe keine Adapter, nur M Linsen von Leica und Voigtländer benutzt.
Kennt jemand das Problem. laut Aussage von Leica wäre es im Promillebereich im Customer Care aufgetreten. Ich wundere mich nur, dass die Kamera so empfindlich sein soll. Schade eigentlich.
By email@example.comHi all,
I would like to ask for your opinion on two Leica Qs that are for sale which I am interested on:
Leica Q; Serial number 49733XX; Price 2700 €; Condition: New (with 0 shutter releases), expired Leica warranty, sold from a private person Leica Q; Serial number 5217XX; Price 2690 €; Condition: used, some used marks (shutter count unknown), expired Leica warranty; 1 year protection through second hand handler Which one would you recommend to buy?
Does the low serial number on the new camera would be an issue? It was probable manufactured at the end of 2016.
Thanks for your comments