Herr Barnack Posted April 9, 2019 Share #221 Posted April 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 4/5/2019 at 3:37 PM, jennyology said: Still waiting ... pre-ordered with B&H on March 13, was told to expect it at the end of March, and now they tell me there's no ETA. I'm #8 on a list at a NH camera shop, and they were expecting a shipment of 8 at the end of March ... still hasn't arrived. Unless I'm way off base, Leica built a warehouse full of Q2 cameras before it is announced. Why Leica then trickles out a few here and a few there every once in a while is beyond me. From everything i have read about the Q2, there is no need for Leica to withhold them from the market to create demand. The demand was like a tidal wave the moment the Q2 was announced. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trankster Posted April 10, 2019 Share #222 Posted April 10, 2019 Ordered on March 10th. Received an email today from B&H that it is still back ordered. I will hold off selling my Fujifilm X100F for a while yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsaly Posted April 10, 2019 Share #223 Posted April 10, 2019 A cynic might argue to "create artificial demand" and thus ensure no discounting. If ten's of thousands of Q2's hit the market at once it would likely lead to discounting by the big box operators thus undercutting profits margins at Leica boutiques and small camera shops. Don't get me wrong, there is often value added by purchasing from a boutique or specialist store. I recommend purchasing from a local merchant/brick & mortar store. I'm just saying that by restricting the flow and trickling out a few cameras here and there tends to support units being sold at MSRP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutsuite Posted April 10, 2019 Share #224 Posted April 10, 2019 My understanding is there are about 200 people total employed at the Wetzlar factory. Obviously, only a certain percentage are camera technicians. Considering the amount of work needed to produce a 28mm Summilux (and I know the Q and Q2 use a slightly different version), a slower roll-out seems understandable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted April 10, 2019 Share #225 Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) B&H has changed their story. It would be fun to know the true reason why, and to know how long the wait will really be. Originally people here (and myself) who ordered around March 11 were told cameras would arrive April 1 and ship thereafter. Now B&H said that didn't happen, and no information is being conveyed about a shipping estimate. It's a reasonable conjecture B&H was originally told "story A" by Leica, and Leica did not deliver on time as promised. Today, B&H's information source is not telling B&H what to expect, or B&H is not saying what they have been told. I wish I had kept my Q. Now I will have to make do with my (technically superior) D850 with its wide assortment of exceptional lenses, suffering a quintessential luxury problem. Maybe I should get another Q and take the $700 loss from zig zagging instead of spending the $1,800 net that the Q2 will set me back. The more I read about it the less there is to like. Edited April 10, 2019 by Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBo Posted April 10, 2019 Share #226 Posted April 10, 2019 I’m wondering if any of this supply issue is related to Leica being nervous about the Zeiss ZX1. Maybe Leitz miscalculated ZX1availability and jumped the gun on their announcement before they were really ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutsuite Posted April 10, 2019 Share #227 Posted April 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wouldn’t characterize that as B&H “changing their story.” They’re relating whatever info (or lack of) they have from Leica to their customers. Frankly, the Leica store here in Los Angeles seems to be just as much in the dark as to when to expect new shipments (I’m on both lists). I kept my Q and used it on a recent road trip through the southwest when it became clear the Q2 wouldn’t arrive in time. I’ll sell it when I have the Q2 in hand. I still have my Pentax 645z and assorted lenses but have largely abandoned taking it outside the studio now that I’ve become accustomed to carrying the small, light and powerful Q. Regaining 47MP with the Q2 will be very welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted April 10, 2019 Share #228 Posted April 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, toutsuite said: I wouldn’t characterize that as B&H “changing their story.” They’re relating whatever info (or lack of) they have from Leica to their customers. Frankly, the Leica store here in Los Angeles seems to be just as much in the dark as to when to expect new shipments (I’m on both lists). I kept my Q and used it on a recent road trip through the southwest when it became clear the Q2 wouldn’t arrive in time. I’ll sell it when I have the Q2 in hand. I still have my Pentax 645z and assorted lenses but have largely abandoned taking it outside the studio now that I’ve become accustomed to carrying the small, light and powerful Q. Regaining 47MP with the Q2 will be very welcome. Sounds like a smart move. "Whatever info" they are relating changed. No matter how one chooses to say it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giguchan Posted April 10, 2019 Share #229 Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) I was at B&H this evening.... They had a Q2 to play with... the guy behind the counter told me" that if i ordered one TODAY... you might have it my September" I can only hope that he's wrong or very misinformed. I saw 2 on "Greed bay" but they were crazy prices. Edited April 10, 2019 by Giguchan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willteeyang Posted April 10, 2019 Share #230 Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Giguchan said: I was at B&H this evening.... They had a Q2 to play with... the guy behind the counter told me" that if i ordered one TODAY... you might have it my September" I can only hope that he's wrong or very misinformed. I saw 2 on "Greed bay" but they were crazy prices. so i see Leica is following Rolex's model. hunger marketing. haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker55 Posted April 10, 2019 Share #231 Posted April 10, 2019 Ordered mine (here in The Netherlands) a couple of weeks ago; spoke to the sales rep this morning; they expect more info on delivery later this week ... The only good news: I'm high on the list 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giguchan Posted April 10, 2019 Share #232 Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, willteeyang said: so i see Leica is following Rolex's model. hunger marketing. haha. One might think that! Nikon did the same with the D850... who knows? maybe it was some bean counter thing to see what the demand is... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoarFM Posted April 10, 2019 Share #233 Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Giguchan said: One might think that! Nikon did the same with the D850... who knows? maybe it was some bean counter thing to see what the demand is... Carrying inventory costs money. Once the product is finalized and in production you sell it instead of incurring the cost of building and holding back inventory. I am skeptical that they are holding back production or inventory. They can simply make a “special edition” and the mad money comes screaming in begging to be taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 10, 2019 Share #234 Posted April 10, 2019 22 hours ago, Matsaly said: A cynic might argue to "create artificial demand" and thus ensure no discounting. If ten's of thousands of Q2's hit the market at once it would likely lead to discounting by the big box operators thus undercutting profits margins at Leica boutiques and small camera shops. Don't get me wrong, there is often value added by purchasing from a boutique or specialist store. I recommend purchasing from a local merchant/brick & mortar store. I'm just saying that by restricting the flow and trickling out a few cameras here and there tends to support units being sold at MSRP. As far as I know, there are no big box stores that are authorized Leica dealers. Target, Best Buy, Walmart, etc. do not stock and sell Leicas. Leica authorized dealers - whether huge like B&H or small like Tamarkin - must sign on the dotted line with Leica and agree to abide by Leica's all of policies in order to sell Leica equipment. If they break any of the terms of the agreement they lose their Leica dealership, including selling only at the prices set by Leica. That's my understanding of how it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker55 Posted April 11, 2019 Share #235 Posted April 11, 2019 Update from The Netherlands: I will most likely get my Q2 towards the end of April. Got a message this morning from the sales rep in the A'dam Leica store, and it seems there will be "some" Q2 deliveries planned for end of April.... can't wait... To be continued Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinono Posted April 11, 2019 Share #236 Posted April 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tinker55 said: Update from The Netherlands: I will most likely get my Q2 towards the end of April. Got a message this morning from the sales rep in the A'dam Leica store, and it seems there will be "some" Q2 deliveries planned for end of April.... can't wait... To be continued This is similar to what I heard from Green Mountain camera in Vermont... "It may not be until later in April." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giguchan Posted April 11, 2019 Share #237 Posted April 11, 2019 I've never seen a Leica at any Big Box Store That's for sure.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siriusone59 Posted April 11, 2019 Share #238 Posted April 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Giguchan said: I've never seen a Leica at any Big Box Store That's for sure.. Believe it or not. You can get a Q from Walmart. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Leica-Q-Typ-116-Digital-Camera-Black/52652116 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giguchan Posted April 11, 2019 Share #239 Posted April 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Siriusone59 said: Believe it or not. You can get a Q from Walmart. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Leica-Q-Typ-116-Digital-Camera-Black/52652116 I never would have thought it!!! Next to the cheerios and shaving cream! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleven24 Posted April 11, 2019 Share #240 Posted April 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, Siriusone59 said: Believe it or not. You can get a Q from Walmart. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Leica-Q-Typ-116-Digital-Camera-Black/52652116 True, but if you look it is sold and shipped from someone other than Walmart. Similar to how Amazon does it. While one can buy a Q online at walmart.com, there's no chance of walking into the local Walmart and picking one up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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