ron777 Posted February 23, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am a Leica SL owner/user, but I also employ other camera systems depending upon the situation at hand, and thus, do not use the SL on an everyday basis. That said, it has just become apparent, that with the histogram visible in the EVF, the focus point is locked in place and cannot be changed via the joystick. Is this a setting oversight on my part, or is has it been preordained via firmware? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted February 23, 2019 Share #2 Posted February 23, 2019 It works for me - I've just checked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted February 23, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) It is a point where you see that the SL is already 3 years old. The software is not extremely user friendly. I have the impression that it is an error, but it will not be fixed with priority. I assume that with the next generation there will be a better user interface (the S1 shows already a much more modern interface with many more option to tune the display). I think you will probably have to live with it. Personally I like the SL so much, that I simply try to work around it - I feel not very inhibited by this small inflexibility. I have just seen the answer above. So it seems to work. I work around it, so much so, that I am now not sure if the flaw exists ... 😎. But I think the display options are not very flexible, usually only one option at a time can be selected. But as said, for me it’s not a big problem. (Not worth mentioning) Edited February 23, 2019 by caissa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: It works for me - I've just checked. Have you installed the latest firmware update? I've tried to get it to work several times and nada, in fact, when the histogram is activated the grid is unavailable as well. I hadn't previously paid attention to this issue, since I rarely have need to change the focus point and therefore do not know if the same behavior existed with 3.3. Since we're talking about software/firmware, I doubt that this is a single camera issue, as all else is in order with my cam. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the Panasonic S1R, and if it truly is as good as the various reviewers claim, I will be selling my SL and keeping my Leica lens collection. If the a-foregoing and other issues were hardware determined, I would be more understanding, but these things could likely have been fixed or otherwise addressed in firmware. That suggests to me that Leica is more about profiteering—and yes, I understand that they are in business to make money—than there are about maintaining a family of loyal, owner/operators. Edited February 24, 2019 by ron777 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 24, 2019 Share #5 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Yes, latest firmware installed. I've just checked: 1-point, Zone, Field are all movable with the histogram displayed. AFs set. The SL has never allowed the histogram and grid (nor focus peaking) to be displayed at the same time. You have to cycle between them. Since this was changed on the CL, and it is such an obvious limitation, I've always assumed it was a hardware constraint, but I have no real knowledge. Edited February 24, 2019 by LocalHero1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 24, 2019 Share #6 Posted February 24, 2019 4 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Yes, latest firmware installed. I've just checked: 1-point, Zone, Field are all movable with the histogram displayed. AFs set. The SL has never allowed the histogram and grid (nor focus peaking) to be displayed at the same time. You have to cycle between them. Since this was changed on the CL, and it is such an obvious limitation, I've always assumed it was a hardware constraint, but I have no real knowledge. same here ...... no change in functionality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) That's very odd. I am sitting at the computer at the moment with the SL (Firmware version 3.4) before me. With the histogram on screen (upper left corner) the focus point (set to single point, AFM, Drive mode: single) the focus point remains centered and unresponsive to joystick movement. If I switch away (cycle through the various screens) from histogram, the joy stick repositions the focus point as desired. I've tried switching the AF modes but the result is the same. For some reason, and it now appears that it relates to my camera, the histogram is interfering with focus point placement. Thinking back, I do not recall experiencing similar behavior with version 3.3 of the firmware. Edited February 24, 2019 by ron777 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted February 24, 2019 Addendum to prior post: There appear to have been other operational changes associated with firmware version 3.4: The available focus field sizes, Field and Zone are visibly different, in that they do not show the same multiple dots that were previously displayed when chosen. Field brings up a pair of brackets, and Zone displays 9 cross hairs. These, as well, are not movable vis joystick when the histogram is visible, but can be moved via the touch screen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 24, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 24, 2019 I can't go back to previous f/w versions to check, but I don't remember the 1-point, Zone and Field being any different: 1 cross hair, broken box outline, 9 cross hairs. All still move on my camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: I can't go back to previous f/w versions to check, but I don't remember the 1-point, Zone and Field being any different: 1 cross hair, broken box outline, 9 cross hairs. All still move on my camera. I recall Field revealing more than a single pair of brackets. However, no matter what changes I make in settings, the joystick will not move the focus point if the histogram is displayed in the EVF, while it can be repositioned via the LCD. And if you are running firmware version 3.4 and have not encountered this issue, perhaps I should do a reset? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 24, 2019 Share #11 Posted February 24, 2019 Yes ......I think a reset is beckoning ...... it can't do any harm ... just remember to save any profiles to disk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted February 24, 2019 Agreed, will do. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 24, 2019 Share #13 Posted February 24, 2019 Sorry, I'm not an expert on how to sort such things. If it happened to me and I'd tried everything else, I'd try a reset - but this is your choice. Save your user profiles first! I always have a 'My default' user profile, which I can use in these cases. It allows me to put the camera in a position that I know has always worked before. This is in case I have accidentally changed some obscure parameter which causes the problem. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Hi Paul, I alway save a user profile, saves a lot of time and battery power should there be an issue. That said, I appreciate your suggestion ... a simple reset resolved the issue. Edited February 24, 2019 by ron777 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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