jcatral14 Posted February 15, 2019 Share #1  Posted February 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I'd like to better organize my pictures and perform some minor editing here and there. What can I use? Seems Adobe has gone to the cloud. Is there any standalone or perpetual license software available anymore? Many thanks 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted February 15, 2019 Share #2  Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Adobe has gone to subscription, not necessarily to the cloud.  I have Lightroom CC Classic, but don’t use the cloud.  If the cloud were mandatory, I would look dump Adobe.  For 10 bucks a month, Photoshop is included. You might still be able to purchase the last standalone LR version, I believe 6.14.  There are threads here if you do a quick search.  This will not, however, include all the latest LR features.  There are also other recent threads on alternative software (Luminar, Affinity, Capture One, etc), as many folks aren’t happy with Adobe.  I still am... for now. Jeff Edited February 15, 2019 by Jeff S 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcatral14 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #3  Posted February 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Adobe has gone to subscription, not necessarily to the cloud.  I have Lightroom CC Classic, but don’t use the cloud.  If the cloud were mandatory, I would look dump Adobe.  For 10 bucks a month, Photoshop is included. You might still be able to purchase the last standalone LR version, I believe 6.14.  There are threads here if you do a quick search.  This will not, however, include all the latest LR features.  There are also other recent threads on alternative software (Luminar, Affinity, Capture One, etc), as many folks aren’t happy with Adobe.  I still am... for now. Jeff Thanks Jeff.  I just want to buy the software once and be done with it. I'll look into LR 6.14. If I buy that off B&H for example, will i get the latest version? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 15, 2019 Share #4 Â Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) https://laurashoe.com/2017/10/19/where-to-buy-the-perpetual-version-lightroom-6/ I would call B&H to confirm before ordering. Â They have a toll free line and are very helpful. But read the cautions in the link! Jeff Edited February 15, 2019 by Jeff S 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 15, 2019 Share #5 Â Posted February 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, jcatral14 said: Thanks Jeff. Â I just want to buy the software once and be done with it. I'll look into LR 6.14. If I buy that off B&H for example, will i get the latest version? Thanks! A bit contradictory. Software improves all the time, making updates or purchasing new versions of interest to somebody who asks for : "the latest version" 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcatral14 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #6  Posted February 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, jaapv said: A bit contradictory. Software improves all the time, making updates or purchasing new versions of interest to somebody who asks for : "the latest version" I meant the last version 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted February 15, 2019 Share #7  Posted February 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) You can’t buy software once and be done with it. The operating system will change and break the app. The hardware will be replaced and not support the old operating system. Software has to move to stand still. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 15, 2019 Share #8 Â Posted February 15, 2019 Actually, I find the Adobe subscription model cheaper than their updates used to be. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted February 15, 2019 Share #9  Posted February 15, 2019 It's an oddly steep learning path for digital image processing because there are many questions you should address.  Such questions include: are you going to calibrate your monitor, are you going to print, are you only posting to the web, do your subjects want to look better than they actually are, are you going to start with raw or jpeg, do you expect your pictures to look as good as the best ones you see posted, etc, etc? You may want to take an image processing class at your local community college or perhaps offered by your local camera dealer.  The small expense will get you started more quickly and on the right path.  Then you can download the free trials of the myriad of apps out there and know what features you are looking for. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 15, 2019 Share #10  Posted February 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, jaapv said: Actually, I find the Adobe subscription model cheaper than their updates used to be. The interim LR updates were free, and the new LR iterations cost $79 here. So, $120 per year is definitely more for me, but Photoshop (which I rarely use) is now included.  Still well worth it for me. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 16, 2019 Share #11 Â Posted February 16, 2019 Yes, I mainly use Photoshop, which means a different equation - for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcatral14 Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share #12  Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 5:30 PM, zeitz said: It's an oddly steep learning path for digital image processing because there are many questions you should address.  Such questions include: are you going to calibrate your monitor, are you going to print, are you only posting to the web, do your subjects want to look better than they actually are, are you going to start with raw or jpeg, do you expect your pictures to look as good as the best ones you see posted, etc, etc? You may want to take an image processing class at your local community college or perhaps offered by your local camera dealer.  The small expense will get you started more quickly and on the right path.  Then you can download the free trials of the myriad of apps out there and know what features you are looking for. Thanks! I think I'll go this route 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2019 Share #13 Â Posted February 17, 2019 If you are more of a book-learning type, the Adobe family of programs is well served for beginners by the books of Scott Kelby, despite his atrocious jokes, and there are plenty of excellent tutorials on the Adobe website. Other programs offer this service as well. A program I can thoroughly recommend is ON 1. It is not very hard to use, beginner-friendly by offering a large number of modifiable presets, and has an extensive library of tutorials on its website. It is cheaper than Lightroom too. Luminar is a good choice as well, for much the same reasons. Affinity is a bit more complicated, more a Photoshop competitor than a Lightroom one. Have a look at Photoshop Elements too. Nothing wrong with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 17, 2019 Share #14  Posted February 17, 2019 Julieanne Kost free Adobe videos are easy to follow, and full of good information and tips.... http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/lightroom-training-videos There are more on Photoshop. All software can be learned; the more practice, the easier.  One tends to like the one that receives the most time and attention. The far harder part is judging when, where and to what degree to apply the edit tools. This is much the same as using a camera; the interface can be easily learned, but the most valuable tools are between the ears. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbananas Posted April 25, 2019 Share #15 Â Posted April 25, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 2:22 PM, jcatral14 said: Thanks Jeff. Â I just want to buy the software once and be done with it. I'll look into LR 6.14. If I buy that off B&H for example, will i get the latest version? Thanks! I think this is a bit of an old thought considering now that the photography pack from adobe is soooo inexpensive and it completely keeps itself up-to-date. Â I use adobe CC classic, and on occasion, Lightroom CC. Â Adobe should have given these products different names, it's a little confusing, but essentially, I store nothing in the adobes cloud except the files I actually want to. Â once I learned how to move them around, I was like DUH! Â facepalm.. it's really easy. Â So occasionally I want to sit on my back porch with a cigar and make some rough edits, no problem. Â ... I add photos that I want to do that to a "synced collection" and poof, they are available on my iPad, AWESOME. OR I'm out and about, and my iPad is with me. Â I can move photos to my iPad, edit them if I want over coffee, when I get home, there they are sitting right in my computers cloud folder, I can then move them right to my hdd, remove them from cloud service and keep working. Â Pretty nifty stuff once you get the hang of it. The monthly price tag is low. Â Years ago it was common to buy the newest version anyway when it came out or shortly after.. this is really no different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted April 25, 2019 Share #16 Â Posted April 25, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 12:35 AM, jaapv said: If you are more of a book-learning type, the Adobe family of programs is well served for beginners by the books of Scott Kelby, despite his atrocious jokes, and there are plenty of excellent tutorials on the Adobe website. Other programs offer this service as well. A program I can thoroughly recommend is ON 1. It is not very hard to use, beginner-friendly by offering a large number of modifiable presets, and has an extensive library of tutorials on its website. It is cheaper than Lightroom too. Luminar is a good choice as well, for much the same reasons. Affinity is a bit more complicated, more a Photoshop competitor than a Lightroom one. Have a look at Photoshop Elements too. Nothing wrong with it. Yes, this is why I prefer Martin Evening's books! I used Julieanne Kost's video a lot on my learning curve for LR, but swapped to the book for PS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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