maron Posted February 8, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has someone tried the 7artisans 50/1,1 with the Cl and can tell about Image charakter? i‘m thinking about for portrait photography... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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M.piras Posted February 8, 2019 Share #2 Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 7artisan 50 f1.1 is not usable on CL (both digital and old film) cause of it's back lens movement on focusing. Tested personally. Search for voigtlander 50mm f1.1 or 50mm f1.5 personally use the f1.1 and is a wonderful lens. M. Edited February 8, 2019 by M.piras 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted February 8, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 8, 2019 7 Artisans do make a modified version which is compatible with the CL. If you order direct from their website and specify that you want th Tl/CL version they will supply the modified version at no extra cost. Archie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maron Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted February 8, 2019 3 hours ago, M.piras said: 7artisan 50 f1.1 is not usable on CL (both digital and old film) cause of it's back lens movement on focusing. Tested personally. Search for voigtlander 50mm f1.1 or 50mm f1.5 personally use the f1.1 and is a wonderful lens. M. Thank you for information, did you use the Leica m-l adapter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted February 8, 2019 Share #5 Posted February 8, 2019 Yes, I used the Leica M adapter L. The lens is quite soft at full aperture but sharpens as the aperture is reduced. Peaking does not work at full aperture but does when stopped down. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.piras Posted February 9, 2019 Share #6 Posted February 9, 2019 Yes, my friend i share my lenses M between M and CL. The voigtlander has a wonderful bokeh and i find it’s perfect for portraits even if my favourite lens is still the 35mm f1.4 (summilux) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted February 12, 2019 Share #7 Posted February 12, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the factory milled one and can confirm it works perfectly on the CL, even 6 bit coded if you use the genuine M-L adapter......that said, it is a fun lens and a bit of fluff for its asking price...I'm going to sell mine on as I just don't use it enough....any takers??? mint, as new, extra lens hood included ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 13, 2019 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) I want a fast mid length/standard lens to take to India with me. As I will be passing through 9 airport security scanners before I get back to the UK, I am only taking low ISO (100) film with me, 10 rolls of Kodak ProImage 100. I am therefore going to rely on my CL for nighttime street and low light shots, which in the past, have been some of my best photos from India. If I were taking my SL, it is very simple choice, the 0.95 Noctilux but that is a bit heavy and at an EFOV of 75mm, a bit too long for the CL. I will be taking a 24/2.8 Elmarit for my R9 but although a perfect length for street photography at 36mm EFOV, it is a bit slow at f2.8. Then I had a thought, what about my recent purchase of the 28mm/f1.4 7Artisans, which I had bought to use mainly on my M7. As Leica still have not delivered the replacement drive shaft, the M7 is looking very dubious for India. However on the CL, the 28/1.4 has a near perfect EFOV of 42mm and the crop sensor eliminates the worst of the edge softness ,when used wide open. Another bonus compared with using it on say my M240, is that the hood does not obscure 25% of the RF/VF window, although I could always use the EVF. I think this may be a perfect street lens for the CL, to the extent that I had thought of not taking the 18mm TL pancake lens, except it weighs next to nothing. Wilson Edited February 13, 2019 by wlaidlaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted February 13, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 13, 2019 open to offers wilson....I had Hamish Gill order this one specially for me to fit the CL, as you say, the crop sensor negates the edge softness so it works really well ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 13, 2019 Share #10 Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, johntobias said: open to offers wilson....I had Hamish Gill order this one specially for me to fit the CL, as you say, the crop sensor negates the edge softness so it works really well ! I already have a 28/1.4 7Artisans bought from Hamish also. He will be getting some of the rectangular hoods with a window in the top left corner at some point, which I may buy to use with my M7 (when it finally comes back after already 4 months away), given the obligation to use the regular VF with the M7. At the moment I am using a regular conical wide angle 52mm hood. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted February 13, 2019 Share #11 Posted February 13, 2019 wow 4 months !! there is no excuse for this in the modern age....hope you get your 7 back soon.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwm Posted February 13, 2019 Share #12 Posted February 13, 2019 I picked up a Jupiter 8/50 f2 and have been impressed but early days yet. Wondering about the 3/50 f1.5 as cheaper than 7 artisans and should be more or less as Fast? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted February 13, 2019 Share #13 Posted February 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, huwm said: I picked up a Jupiter 8/50 f2 and have been impressed but early days yet. Wondering about the 3/50 f1.5 as cheaper than 7 artisans and should be more or less as Fast? all these 'cheapy' lenses are a helluva bargain...just don't expect leica critical quality...the 7 artisans bokeh is a point in example...pleasant but unlike anything that has been made in Germany 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 13, 2019 Share #14 Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, huwm said: I picked up a Jupiter 8/50 f2 and have been impressed but early days yet. Wondering about the 3/50 f1.5 as cheaper than 7 artisans and should be more or less as Fast? I was going to buy a Lomography new Jupiter, especially now that it has been made to focus correctly on a Leica, unlike the earlier versions, which used Zeiss focusing helicoid pitch. However I was put off by some very mediocre reviews and at the same time, a Japanese friend located for me, one of the 1999 year Special Edition LTM 50/f1.4 Summilux v.III e46 lenses at an estate auction. I am delighted with this lens and at the price I got it, I could easily make a 50% profit, if I ever wanted to sell it. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maron Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 7:44 PM, M.piras said: Yes, my friend i share my lenses M between M and CL. The voigtlander has a wonderful bokeh and i find it’s perfect for portraits even if my favourite lens is still the 35mm f1.4 (summilux) I am interested what type of Summilux 35 you are using. Can you tell something about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 14, 2019 Share #16 Posted February 14, 2019 6 hours ago, maron said: I am interested what type of Summilux 35 you are using. Can you tell something about? My Summilux 35 v2 and FLE work fine on the CL but those are expensive lenses. Aside from flare and focus shift, my CV 35/1.4 SC works fine as well but my favorite portrait lens is the ZM 50/1.5 which is compact enough on the CL and nicely soft at f/1.5 but plenty sharp at f/2.8 and on with a superb resistance to flare. Does focus shift as well but this is not a problem on mirrorless cameras when focusing at working aperture as you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maron Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, lct said: My Summilux 35 v2 and FLE work fine on the CL but those are expensive lenses. Aside from flare and focus shift, my CV 35/1.4 SC works fine as well but my favorite portrait lens is the ZM 50/1.5 which is compact enough on the CL and nicely soft at f/1.5 but plenty sharp at f/2.8 and on with a superb resistance to flare. Does focus shift as well but this is not a problem on mirrorless cameras when focusing at working aperture as you know. Thanks for your answer! I use the SLX V2 too. It has a very good Bokeh, but is a little soft wide open, so I use the tl 35 1,4 as alternative. Edited February 14, 2019 by maron Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntobias Posted February 14, 2019 Share #18 Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, maron said: Thanks for your answer! I use the SLX V2 too. It has a very good Bokeh, but is a little soft wide open, so I use the tl 35 1,4 as alternative. Have to admit that my old eyes need the AF to nail focus so the 35 T 'lux is fabulous wide open ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.piras Posted February 15, 2019 Share #19 Posted February 15, 2019 Hello my friend, my summilux is a 1970s ~ lens with multicoating . I really love it on film and expecially on CL. I also tried a modern aspherical version (coded) and is also fantastic, i think technically more perfect but less "hearty" . M 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maron Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted February 15, 2019 Thanks for your different comments. So I will continue with a 45 years old Leica—R 1:2.0/50mm. This has‘nt got AF, but a fine rendering and bokeh. My TL 35 1,4 is nearby and together they are a good combination. Have a nice weekend! Wolfgang Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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