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After three years on this forum, and with a history of not leaving the house without my Q, I now face the burden of very limited bag space/weight. 

I’ve taken trips here with only the Q but prefer to have my Canon FF and lenses with me as well.  

European airlines require very small bags so carry-on of everything is impossible. 

Two weeks with only a Q in Italy?

any hints for locations in Naples?

 

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We do carry-on only, even if we're away for several weeks.  My travel camera kit is my Q and my V-Lux 114.  I almost never need anything g else.  Like you my carry around every day camera is my Q

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When I travel in Europe (where I live), I carry the Q, plus a Nikon D810 plus 24mm 1.8  plus 50mm 1.8 plus 70-200 2.8 (a beast...) a hard drive, spare batteries, a power pack, a tablet, a book and some more loose items in my carry on. Always. There is even room for a sandwich... But that's about it, clothes and such are in my suitcase. Security wants to dig it all out now and then, that is a bummer but once you know that you can prepare.

So I am not sure what you have been told about carry on in Europe, but check your airline(s) for details to make sure. Don't depend on hearsay. BTW, I was told that the U.S. is much more restrictive than Europe...

On the other hand, I have also traveled with just the Q once and I must say I rather enjoyed it. No long lens of course, but depending on the goal of the trip,  that can be just fine. And a lot less weight.

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2 hours ago, SonbomaBear said:

Another question. We’ve been told our bags are too large for carryon and underseat. 

Which travel bags do European travellers prefer?

 

In my experience European airlines are not very strict. I often exceed the hand luggage restrictions, nobody has ever complained.

KLM/Air France:

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Economy Class: 1 piece of hand baggage with maximum dimensions of 55 x 35 x 25 cm (21.5 x 13.5 x 10 in). 1 accessory with maximum dimensions of 40 x 30 x 15 cm (16 x 12 x 6 in). Total weight (hand baggage plus accessory) of maximum 12 kg (26 lbs).

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The real problem is of course that the Canon gear is too bulky and heavy  There is little need for it in Europe anyway  The Q is ample for 85% of the subjects Throw in a D-Lux, or Panasonic GX or for top quality CL with lenses of your choice for the rest of your needs and you are not even on a third of your allowance  

 

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Barbara and I each carry one of these Lesportsac large weekenders (https://www.amazon.com/LeSportsac-Essential-Large-Weekender-café/dp/B077MRFJ2R/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1549280552&sr=8-5&keywords=lesportsac+large+weekender), which is made of rip-stop nylon, and have been using them for decades.  Very light, fit in the overhead, and match the dimensional regs of airlines around the world.  We do not use hard sided luggage, nor luggage with wheels and handles since the lightest of them weigh half as much as what we pack in our Lesportsacs.  We also each bring a small backpack which fits under the seat for photo gear, MacBook, iPad, meds and any valuables.  three of the advantages of traveling this lightly means we never have lost luggage, never wait for luggage to be unloaded from aircraft,  and if there's a problem with the airlines we can just go to another airline to change flights right away.

I can give you details on how we can pack lightly enough to travel for several weeks with so little luggage, if you like.

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On my last two trips I took to Europe,  I carried the Leica Q both times, and a Lumix GX1, with two prime lenses, once.  I used the GX1 for perhaps 10 shots with the Q clocking in at over a 1,000.  I do have some angst about "what if" something catastrophic were to happen to the Leica, which I walk around with, and thus I would have nothing, so I think I will continue to pack the GX and two small lenses, just in case.  Nothing new here, but perhaps a little validation.

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16 hours ago, SonbomaBear said:

Another question. We’ve been told our bags are too large for carryon and underseat. 

Which travel bags do European travellers prefer?

Rules vary depending on the airline. Some budget carriers now only allow very small bags as 'hand luggage' - the usual cabin sized trolly bags are not allowed! So check who you're travelling with and what their rules are.

 

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On 2/3/2019 at 10:31 AM, SonbomaBear said:

After three years on this forum, and with a history of not leaving the house without my Q, I now face the burden of very limited bag space/weight. 

I’ve taken trips here with only the Q but prefer to have my Canon FF and lenses with me as well.  

European airlines require very small bags so carry-on of everything is impossible. 

Two weeks with only a Q in Italy?

any hints for locations in Naples?

 

It depends on each airline’s luggage restrictions and airfares. I recently flew Norwegian Air and they have a strict weight limit of 10 kg for both a carry-on and a hand bag. My Leica Q, Nikon 800E, 14-24mm and 24-70 lenses, two iPads, and a laptop all together already weigh 8 kg, so I checked in my carry-on which contains clothings, a light Gitzo tripod, and a few of other things that weigh less than the limit of 15 kg (for check-in luggage). The airfare from Los Angeles to Malaga (Spain) was cheap ($500 round trip) so I could afford $190 check-in fees both ways.

I could have brought only the Leica Q and left the tripod and some clothes at home to meet the 10 kg carry-on limit but it was too risky. I take more pictures with Leica Q but do need other focal lengths.

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I've taken only the Q on 2 long trips. Great photos. Never missed not having another focal length. I'm seriously worried that I can no longer justify other toys....

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On 2/4/2019 at 2:51 AM, stuny said:

We do carry-on only, even if we're away for several weeks.  My travel camera kit is my Q and my V-Lux 114.  I almost never need anything g else.  Like you my carry around every day camera is my Q

Since I got my Q I’ve travelled to Europe, Asia and Japan only with it. My Nikon FF has never been on a vacation since and has been relegated to my kids school activities only because I need 200mm lenses from the bleachers. The Q with batteries is more than enough. It is so liberating as my only carry when we walk is the Leica, no more bags

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On 2/5/2019 at 1:19 PM, bags27 said:

I've taken only the Q on 2 long trips. Great photos. Never missed not having another focal length. I'm seriously worried that I can no longer justify other toys....

I take my Q and a c (typ 112) on pretty much every trip. 

The c is for evening!s when my wife will be upset that I take my q to dinner etc

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I only wish I had a Q. I have two film Ms that I travel with overseas. Having used 28 and 35, or 28 and 50, I have invariably taken about 80% of photos with the 28. 

For carry-on, I use an Osprey 35 litre backpack. It meets international Economy carry-on (Qantas), weights about 1kg, and swallows a small Billingham shoulder bag with two bodies and three lenses, iPad, 20 rolls of film, phone, chargers, two pairs of full size headphones, a soft jacket, wallet and four passports., plus a few books and a water bottle in the side pocket.

With a total weight limit of 7kg, I can get 6kg of luggage in the 1kg backpack. It’s never left me short of volume and never been refused boarding. 

On arrival, I take the Billingham out of the backpack and off we go!

 Enjoy!

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Billingham Hadley One w/half insert located in center of bag: Houses Leica Q, Canon 5d4 w/ 24-105 attached Flash for 5d, RX1 and all charging equipment with spare batteries. It's heavy but works. Only US travel so far. Also, carry in my suitcase small backpack which lies flat. Doesn't take up much space in suitcase. When I get to my final destination I use the small backpack for a working bag. Best of all is just walking around with the Q and a spare battery in my pocket.  https://billingham.co.uk/collections/laptop-tablet/products/hadley-one

Cheers

 

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It really depends on what you expect photography wise from your trip, unless it's a specific trip to get wall hangers then any moder camera will do the trick. But if you are up early and out at sunset and blue hour then you may wish to compress the scene etc and therefore will need multiple lenses. Memories can be caught on an iPhone but if you want to be creative you need the"time" and appropriate tools. Funny because we fly into Naples for a week in May but I already know I will not be taking serious photos because its a holiday with my wife and although I will be taking photos, they will be mainly snaps. Enjoy the trip thats much more important 

 

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It has taken me years to realize the difference in what cameras I need to take on a trip. A trip devoted to photography where I am up early, out late and patiently working a scene, demands a lot more gear. A vacation trip where the main focus is experiences and not photography, allows me to take much less. Confusing the two is often an exercise in frustration. Less is more! 

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On 2/14/2019 at 9:46 PM, prk60091 said:

I take my Q and a c (typ 112) on pretty much every trip. 

The c is for evening!s when my wife will be upset that I take my q to dinner etc

next time, take your wife, too. 😀

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2 hours ago, Infiniumguy said:

It has taken me years to realize the difference in what cameras I need to take on a trip. A trip devoted to photography where I am up early, out late and patiently working a scene, demands a lot more gear. A vacation trip where the main focus is experiences and not photography, allows me to take much less. Confusing the two is often an exercise in frustration. Less is more! 

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