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Is the S1/S1R a good backup camera for SL

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With the S1H Pana has also announced the 2.8/24-70.    https://leicarumors.com/2019/08/27/l-mount-alliance-panasonic-announced-a-new-s1h-camera-and-24-70mm-f-2-8-lens-both-for-l-mount.aspx/ https://www.dpreview.com/news/8772897579/panasonic-lumix-s-pro-24-70mm-f2-8-to-ship-in-october-for-2200  https://news.panasonic.co.uk/panasonic-launches-new-lumix-s1h-with-cinema-quality-video-and-worlds-first-6k24p-321-recording-capability/

The new lens could be an interesting alternative for the SL 24-90 . It is a bit lighter, shorter, and so probably handy as a always on lens. It is expensive (2200$ in US) but very cheap compared to the Leica. It will be very interesting to see IQ at wide open aperture. And it is a Pro (Leica certified) lens unlike the 24-105.      https://news.panasonic.co.uk/panasonic-launches-new-l-mount-interchangeable-lens-for-its-lumix-s-series-full-frame-mirrorless-cameras/

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Looking at the prices and the sophistication of the software, the question poses itself for me, if these video features are not quite useless, and a user is served well better with a new iPhone 11 Pro with 3 lenses and software that looks much more advanced. Is this really the case, or just marketing gimmicks ? The new phones look very attractive for video ...

I am no video user, so I wonder what videographers think about this ...

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19 hours ago, caissa said:

Looking at the prices and the sophistication of the software, the question poses itself for me, if these video features are not quite useless, and a user is served well better with a new iPhone 11 Pro with 3 lenses and software that looks much more advanced. Is this really the case, or just marketing gimmicks ? The new phones look very attractive for video ...

I am no video user, so I wonder what videographers think about this ...

The answer is exactly the same as for stills. Just replace the appropriate words in the text below:

 

A smartphone will satisfy most stills shooters, the same way that a box camera did 90 years ago. You will even find some serious/artistic photographers who use it extensively. This is done as a personal challenge, and also because the smartphone/box camera has a distinct "look" that is very familiar to contemporary viewers.

In the end, most serious photographers want more flexibility to express their vision. As an analogy, Shakespeare did not just write sonnets. He also ventured into less restricted forms.

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25 minutes ago, BernardC said:

In the end, most serious photographers want more flexibility to express their vision.

Whose end? Most phone photographers just want to press a button and let the camera do the rest. Oh, a few cool automated effects with another button, too.

 

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20 hours ago, pico said:

Whose end? Most phone photographers just want to press a button and let the camera do the rest. Oh, a few cool automated effects with another button, too.

 

There are many serious Smart Phone photographers who routinely post on social media whose work is incredible. Yes... many use there phone just for snaps... but a lot don't.

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On 2/1/2019 at 4:24 PM, caissa said:

I will very like keep my SL. But I would like to have a backup body, just in case. Would the S1 or S1R fit that gap ?

While the lenses are compatible, other accessories such as charger, batteries and flash are not. So it’s not an ideal backup. 

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A word about “unbiased” photo reviewers that are “telling the truth” as the Northrups entitle their shows.

When the Lumix S cameras were announced, without testing them, they found the high-res feature (resulting in 180 MP pictures) purely a marketing gimmick and unusable. They never changed their mind and corrected themselves. But now with the new Sony camera that has now also an equivalent feature, what surprise ...  they find it great.   This is really what I call the unbiased truth ....      admirable !

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I thought that they still found the Sony version unusable, and we’re basing theiprior assessment of the Panasonic on Sony or Olympus technology. 

Mode 2 works well enough for me on landscapes, but I wouldn’t use it normally other than when I need all the res I can get. 

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23 hours ago, caissa said:

A word about “unbiased” photo reviewers that are “telling the truth” as the Northrups entitle their shows.

When the Lumix S cameras were announced, without testing them, they found the high-res feature (resulting in 180 MP pictures) purely a marketing gimmick and unusable. They never changed their mind and corrected themselves. But now with the new Sony camera that has now also an equivalent feature, what surprise ...  they find it great.   This is really what I call the unbiased truth ....      admirable !

Most of their 'reviews' seem to involve 12hrs of messing about  under limited conditions ...... and they very rarely go back and re-visit their initial opinions.... except where the manufacturers have corrected the problems 'they' found and they want to crow about it.

At least Jared Polin ...... for all the big hair and hype spent a good while with the camera in real-world situations and produced a pretty fair assessment of the pros and cons. 

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