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Good approach, it seems to me. I've just been trying the M-Looks presets, which have a different approach from VSCO and get me more quickly and closer to the look I want. Actually, of the 24 M-Look presets, I tend to use only two: Real Film (Typ 4) and Real Film (Typ 5) B&W. These presets work somewhat differently from a VSCO preset: when you apply then, they start with the unprocessed RAW file — for example, if you changed the White Balance, unlike VSCO, they use the original White Balance as shot. 

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On 2/2/2019 at 5:25 PM, PeterGA said:

 

the first link that popped up when I typed in "The Leica Look" on duck duck go

I think the writer of this article might actually be a poster in this forum - for those who wish to see examples illustrating the 'Leica look' which support his take on the question - this might be a good place to start.

Pete

 

 

I can’t argue with this. I think it accounts for my sloppy observations. I’ll keep it in mind as I shoot... great to hear someone so articulate at something so fleeting and multidimensional. JD

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On 2/4/2019 at 5:02 AM, IamTheDistance said:

If you are bored, you can see the blind test I've just created. I started an 'one-post-only' blog just for this purpose. It's not my personal blog so it's not spam. This is the URL https://theleicalook.home.blog/2019/02/04/leica-look-is-real-or-not/ 

 

Thanks. That was fun. At first I chose.one of the series and by the time I finished chose a different one based an a couple key photos. It was the one you labeled as Leica. I would have bet $5 for fun that I got it right, but not $50. JD 

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On 2/4/2019 at 5:02 AM, IamTheDistance said:

If you are bored, you can see the blind test I've just created. I started an 'one-post-only' blog just for this purpose. It's not my personal blog so it's not spam. This is the URL https://theleicalook.home.blog/2019/02/04/leica-look-is-real-or-not/ 

Well, I picked the photos that I thought looked best.  Looked at the bottom for the answer.  Leica M10.

 

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6 hours ago, JDFlood said:

Thanks. That was fun. At first I chose.one of the series and by the time I finished chose a different one based an a couple key photos. It was the one you labeled as Leica. I would have bet $5 for fun that I got it right, but not $50. JD 

Hahaha we need a moderator for the bets😆

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19 hours ago, IamTheDistance said:

 

Thank you! Could you tell the reasons you liked the M most?

First thing - I thought the color rendition was best.  Also, it has the right amount of contrast and shadow detail - not too much, not to little.

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“I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [hard-core pornography][the Leica Look], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, ...”

Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart

 

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On 2/6/2019 at 3:39 AM, 4pipes said:

For me, it was the pleasing exposure on most, and the starburst on another.

As I pointed out above, I guessed the M photos by exposure because of the way the M metering works (simple centre weighted) compared to the likely evaluative metering modes on the other cameras.

The comparison really needs to be done with the same exposure applied to all cameras/images.

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Avebury avenue in dull January 2019 weather. M10 35summiluxFLE @F1.4 only a slight crop. Until I got the 35FLE I didn't think landscapes would work at F1.4 but its even better than the sum micron at F2. Another plus is that I don't need to do any PP in Aperture  just import the RAW DNG. Any PP just ends up flattening the image.

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1 hour ago, Chaemono said:

It’s not an image thread. 

That’s rich, considering your propensity for posting images ...

Lincoln seems to have been posting his idea of a Leica look (or not).  I like the image, but it is a little dark.  I’m not sure how I would process it.  What Lincoln raises, though, is an issue that has been in my mind for a while.  Without wanting to appear overly critical, the majority of the images posted on this forum are a waste of bandwidth - sorry, but they just have nothing to say. I don’t post my images for that very reason - they would be a waste of bandwidth too ...  What I look for is images that tell me something - they are inherently very good or they show something I didn’t know.

So, what is the Leica look?  I posted above that what Leica provides is a particular combination of excellent lens design and fabrication and a particular approach to  camera design.  Technically, they are excellent.  Irakly makes a similar comment in his article, though with far more authority and clarity.  But much of that subtlety can easily be wrecked in post-processing; or mimicked ...  Lincoln did no post processing to his image, which does make it interesting.

With modern equipment, of any manufacture, I’m sure a competent Photoshop user or other skilled person in post processing can make “pop”, “glow” or “Leica look” to a point - a point where most could not tell.  Similarly, a hack can make a good image look pretty average with incompetent post processing.  This makes me tentative; but it also makes me pretty critical of much of what I see.

It’s a hard row we make for ourselves to hoe ...

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23 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

It’s a hard row we make for ourselves to hoe ...

Only if we insist on calling it "Leica look". 

Why not just make our own style, independent of what it looks like? 😉

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The so-called Leica-look is a figment of a short period of history entangled with particular optics no longer made and early film characteristics, most of which are no longer available.

Significant lenses-looks go back to the 1800's with such as Petzvals, which were later diminished in popularity with Eurycop and other Rapid Rectilinear lenses which lead to the new era of sharpness and so-called fidelity.

What is left of history is that we can still recreate Petzval outcomes using the original lenses.

 

 

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